Thread: Marijuana/cocaine should be legalized in the U.S

Yeah Jdog, I hope that your last comment wasn't serious. I mean just because you personally think drug use is " stupid" and "immoral" doesn't mean that that has to become a law. Sadly enough that already is so, but you also insist putting a deathpenalty on drug use. What kind of medieval, lowly intelligent mentality is that? When I am smoking Marijuana why should you bother? I'm not harming anyone with it. at best myself ( In case you're unaware; Marijuana, LSD, Mushrooms, Peyote and DMT, all intense, natural hallucinogens are all no more harmfull than a cup of coffee ), but that would be non of your business. I don't think you are concerned about people when it comes to the drug issue; Do you know how many people get killed by governmental execution? I'd rather see the deathpenalty become illegal and drugs such as Marijuana and natural hallucinogens be legalised.

So what is your logic? "Drugs are bad hmmkay. And if drugs won't kill people, then I will" ?
Well maybe they should hang you for your musical taste. Or your sexual preference. Or for any other insignificant personal choice with which you're not harming anyone at all. I hope you see the point I'm trying to make here.
It would become an even more dangerious world if we were to execute all of those with which we disagree.

And in such a world, where smoking a joint would be punished by murder (where's the moral logic in that? Tell me please), drugs would be the least of all health-concerns. A government that is intolerant, cruelly dominant towards it's people and eager to put a rope around the necks of "deviants" is much more of a health threat actually.



And about druglaws:

Actually here in Holland, in an effort to get a grip on the drug-related gangs and crimes, they legalised cannabis. And what a good move it was. It's not like Cannabis is a harmfull drug, it's not addictive so it's responsible to legalise. Result: Criminals have 0 grip on the Marijuana market and Crime around it dissolved and disappeared pretty much completely.

Now to do this with cocaine would be a little bit trickier, as Cocaine is incredibly addictive and quite significantly harmfull physically and psychologically. But then again it's not like people who are so ignorant and wreckless to do cocaine anyway currently have much trouble obtaining cocaine no matter how enforced it is.
I guess it's better if cocaine too would be legalised, so criminals can't have any grip on it anymore. I read in the newspaper, a couple of months ago, that there was cocaine on the underground cocaine-market that was mixed in with Lethal-at-low-doses-substance Atropine, from deadly nightshade plants, having caused serveral people to die and be admitted to hospital in crytical states.

These situations would be avoided if cocaine were to be legalised and the substance extracted and processed professionally from the coca-plants by pharmaceutical laborants. However the problem with legal, high quality cocaine remains: It's still cocaine which is known to be very harmfull and addictive. It would become a second alcohol and cause alot of deaths, Addiction-related crimes and Cocaine induced violence. In combination with the, also very dangerious but underestimated, alcohol alrady legal almost everywhere cocaine would probably drag a whole lot of people down into addiction, abuse and mental instability.

So Legalise Marijuana? Defenitely; Legaling it causes a very small problem compaired to the huge problems we face in countries where it is illegal. In fact pretty much the same goes for alot of hallucinogens like Peyote/San Pedro Cacti(mescaline), Ayahuasca/Yopo/DMT, LSD, Psilocybin Mushrooms, Iboga and other natural hallucinogens; Eventhough the very names of these shamanic vegetative drugs make many of you shiver in disgust, it is worthy to know that all these substances are either completely harmless or no more toxic than a cup of coffee. So De-criminalising these substances by legalisation and government controlled sale would also be a very bright idea. You trade a shitload of problems for a low risk potential that is almost completely avoidable if people were to be thoroughly informed.

But I don't know about cocaine. It's so destructive and there is no way to really use it responsibly if you ask me. But I've heard you pros, the cons and I stated a few pros myself. I still don't know.

Originally Posted by SKA

Actually here in Holland, in an effort to get a grip on the drug-related gangs and crimes, they legalised cannabis. And what a good move it was. It's not like Cannabis is a harmfull drug, it's not addictive so it's responsible to legalise. Result: Criminals have 0 grip on the Marijuana market and Crime around it dissolved and disappeared pretty much completely.

Now to do this with cocaine would be a little bit trickier, as Cocaine is incredibly addictive and quite significantly harmfull physically and psychologically. But then again it's not like people who are so ignorant and wreckless to do cocaine anyway currently have much trouble obtaining cocaine no matter how enforced it is.
I guess it's better if cocaine too would be legalised, so criminals can't have any grip on it anymore. I read in the newspaper, a couple of months ago, that there was cocaine on the underground cocaine-market that was mixed in with Lethal-at-low-doses-substance Atropine, from deadly nightshade plants, having caused serveral people to die and be admitted to hospital in crytical states.

These situations would be avoided if cocaine were to be legalised and the substance extracted and processed professionally from the coca-plants by pharmaceutical laborants. However the problem with legal, high quality cocaine remains: It's still cocaine which is known to be very harmfull and addictive. It would become a second alcohol and cause alot of deaths, Addiction-related crimes and Cocaine induced violence. In combination with the, also very dangerious but underestimated, alcohol alrady legal almost everywhere cocaine would probably drag a whole lot of people down into addiction, abuse and mental instability.

So Legalise Marijuana? Defenitely; Legaling it causes a very small problem compaired to the huge problems we face in countries where it is illegal.

But I don't know about cocaine. It's so destructive and there is no way to really use it responsibly if youn ask me. But I've heard you pros, the cons and I stated a few pros myself. I still don't know.

i hope thats something everyone here can agree with