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      Tell Me: A Reason to Not Kill Myself

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      Albert Camus asserted that a very integral question to all philosophy is this:
      - Why should you not kill yourself?

      Of course, it invariably leads to your purpose in life and philosophical reasoning for existance.

      Tell me your reason.
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      ...o.o Cause your loved and I'm sure your family would miss you? Don't kill yourself O'nus.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Jeff777 View Post
      ...o.o Cause your loved and I'm sure your family would miss you? Don't kill yourself O'nus.
      So, if I did not have a family, I should kill myself? What if I moved away from them and have a distant relationship?

      I would not kill myself. I am just curious what reasons people would give.
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      Cuz of people who would be really sad if I died. If I was alone somewhere, a bum on the street with absolutely nothing, then meh there probably wouldn't be a reason to live.

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      Well, if you are disregarding the sadness of your mommy if you died, there may not be a reason to not kill yourself, but there is no reason not to just go ahead and live too.

      You could use as a reason to live your quest to find a reason not to commit suicide. There may be a flaw in your reasoning that there is no reason not to commit suicide, so you could spend your time looking for it.

      Maybe that is what you are doing right now?

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      I would suggest that there are so many thing to see, people to meet, experiences to have and beauty to see in the world that killing your self seems a little bit of a waste.

      Maybe a reason to not kill yourself is just a matter of simple existence or make some kind of impact, a difference even if its only to one person.

      Although you could say that if you killed your self what would that matter? but then thats the same for any other reason ie family and friends if your dead what does their feeling mean?..... nothing

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      the world would be worse off without me

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      Because you can't see into the future. The uncertainty helps. Picture yourself trapped in an immense desert. You might give up on finding your way out. Now, picture yourself trapped in an equally immense desert, but with lots of large sand dunes. Now, you can't ever see past the next dune. So, you'll keep going for a much longer time before giving up, because who knows what's behind the next dune?

      It's kind of like how gambling addictions work. Yeah, you're down $200, but let's just try a few more quarters, etc. Live by induction!

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      ▫It is against the law.
      ▫It is a greedy act?


      Any thing you pose can be rebutted with the argument - who cares, I won't be here! unless you attach an afterlife.

      ▪Too scared
      ▪No quantifiable reason to.
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      THIS:





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      I don't feel like it?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Howie View Post
      ▫It is against the law.
      ▫It is a greedy act?


      Any thing you pose can be rebutted with the argument - who cares, I won't be here! unless you attach an afterlife.
      If there is an afterlife, I'm not sure your local or federal laws carry over

      Against the law to kill yourself? How does that make any sense? What do they do? Put your corpse in a holding sell? Charge you a fine that they'll take outta your back pocket as you lie face down? Not like you'll be using it anyway...

      Greed is a whole different subject. You might not care when your dead, but you don't want to hurt those close to you by killing youself. Because its against the law is just stupid, I honestly can't believe there is a law against killing yourself. Its an impossible law. No one gets charged or arrested because they were about to jump off a building, and I don't think they do when they go kersplat either.

      Why to not kill yourself? Because we're alive. Higher power or no Higher power, we have life. Whether it was a product of some divine being, or of evolution, we have life. Why not do with it what you will? Utilize it. Frankly, I want to die. But I also want to live. I'll die when the time comes, until then live life the way you want to and enjoy it. I want to die because when I die I get to see what, if anything, is beyond this life. Until then however, I should enjoy the life I have. Just because I want to die doesn't mean I should off myself, nor does it mean I'm unhappy or incapable of living happily. Live life until the time comes, and then embrace that time. Enjoy life as much as you can, and utilize it.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ExoByte View Post
      Against the law to kill yourself? How does that make any sense? What do they do? Put your corpse in a holding sell? Charge you a fine that they'll take outta your back pocket as you lie face down? Not like you'll be using it anyway...[...] No one gets charged or arrested because they were about to jump off a building.
      Some centuries ago, I think in England it was, they had the death penalty for attempted suicide.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ExoByte View Post
      If there is an afterlife, I'm not sure your local or federal laws carry over

      Against the law to kill yourself? How does that make any sense? What do they do? Put your corpse in a holding sell? Charge you a fine that they'll take outta your back pocket as you lie face down? Not like you'll be using it anyway...

      Greed is a whole different subject. You might not care when your dead, but you don't want to hurt those close to you by killing youself. Because its against the law is just stupid, I honestly can't believe there is a law against killing yourself. Its an impossible law. No one gets charged or arrested because they were about to jump off a building, and I don't think they do when they go kersplat either.

      Why to not kill yourself? Because we're alive. Higher power or no Higher power, we have life. Whether it was a product of some divine being, or of evolution, we have life. Why not do with it what you will? Utilize it. Frankly, I want to die. But I also want to live. I'll die when the time comes, until then live life the way you want to and enjoy it. I want to die because when I die I get to see what, if anything, is beyond this life. Until then however, I should enjoy the life I have. Just because I want to die doesn't mean I should off myself, nor does it mean I'm unhappy or incapable of living happily. Live life until the time comes, and then embrace that time. Enjoy life as much as you can, and utilize it.
      As far as I know it is considered an unlawful act to attempt and not succeed. What is more sad than anything, the people who ATTEMPT suicide are the ones often crying out for help.
      If I really wanted to die, I can assure you it would be a done deal. I can spare the details.

      You use words like enjoy, embrace and we have life. What do you tell a person that does not give life the same merit as you. I'm not disagreeing with you Exo, but the question is relevant.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Korittke View Post
      Some centuries ago, I think in England it was, they had the death penalty for attempted suicide.
      Last edited by ExoByte; 12-07-2007 at 07:59 PM.
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      Quote Originally Posted by O'nus View Post
      - Why should you not kill yourself?
      Because I enjoy life.

      And even if I didn't, I'm sure I wouldn't enjoy death.

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      i think because once its done you cant get it back. i'm still quite early in the game and i want to see what i can do with it before i decide i dont want it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ExoByte View Post
      Ha ha exactly! Ouch ouch ouch this is not working.

      Such things as living wills have to be considered I guess or the public act of doing so.
      I rather odd irony, maybe like the DEATH penalty, it is a deturent.

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      Where's the logic in such a deterrent? "Man, maybe I shouldn't kill myself. They'll kill me if I do!"

      Ack, I edit my above post in response to yours Howie and there are 3 more replies. I'll move it down.


      Quote Originally Posted by Howie View Post
      As far as I know it is considered an unlawful act to attempt and not succeed. What is more sad than anything, the people who ATTEMPT suicide are the ones often crying out for help.
      If I really wanted to die, I can assure you it would be a done deal. I can spare the details.

      You use words like enjoy, embrace and we have life. What do you tell a person that does not give life the same merit as you. I'm not disagreeing with you Exo, but the question is relevant.
      Oh trust me, preaching to the choir. I actually don't give life too much merit, I just do with it what I can. Admittedly I'm pretty miserable, and pretty pessimistic about a lot of things and have almost no hope for this world. So I'd say the same thing that I firmly believe, if life sucks, try and change it. It may seem hopeless because you're just one person, but there are others that think the same way. A united effort to change things will get things done. We can't see the future, and so while things may suck now, ending it all destroys even the slightest possibility of an enjoyable future. If your life sucks, do something about it. Either to try and fix things for the world, or to simply fix them for yourself. Giving up is a cowards way out, its easy. Its simply an excuse not to give any effort because that would take... well, effort. While they're may be very little hope for this world, or one may believe there is very little hope, not trying, just giving up and not taking the initiative to attempt to better things is hypocritical. By complaining about how little hope there is for the world and then saying "Fuck It all," shows that one can be just as much a part of the problem despite how much they hate it. On the other hand, you might hold the Darwin Awards motto true in that situation...

      However, I don't think everyone suicidal is a coward. Please don't get me wrong in that. Some people are depressed and in an irrational state, can't think clearly and really don't want to do what they're about to, but can't help it and do need a friendly hand to hold theirs. There are smart people who are good, helpful people in the world who can break down and almost collapse under all the pressure. So, that said, to every rule there is an exception.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Howie View Post
      Ha ha exactly! Ouch ouch ouch this is not working.

      Such things as living wills have to be considered I guess or the public act of doing so.
      I rather odd irony, maybe like the DEATH penalty, it is a deturent.
      Why do all your recent posts sound like you had them translated from Chinese by Google? I don't understand a single word. All your base...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Korittke
      Why do all your recent posts sound like you had them translated from Chinese by Google? I don't understand a single word. All your base...
      Sorry.
      I don't often come across very clear. Maybe I do not word things properly? I will be more than glad to try to clarify anything if you point it out.

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      Such things as living wills have to be considered I guess or the public act of doing so.
      I rather odd irony, maybe like the DEATH penalty, it is a deturent.
      For logic to have the death penalty as an unlawful act = If you have a new agreement with regards to a living will, then killing yourself would abolish the agreement and they consider this illegal.
      I have also heard the argument that it should be illegal to kill yourself in public because of the trauma it would inflict on those who see it.
      Those are just a couple of the arguments I have heard. Really, I do not know if there are more or if those have any merit in court or what.
      It some aspects, it all seems a bit unreasonable.








      Quote Originally Posted by ExoByte View Post
      Where's the logic in such a deterrent? "Man, maybe I shouldn't kill myself. They'll kill me if I do!"

      However, I don't think everyone suicidal is a coward. Please don't get me wrong in that. Some people are depressed and in an irrational state, can't think clearly and really don't want to do what they're about to, but can't help it and do need a friendly hand to hold theirs. There are smart people who are good, helpful people in the world who can break down and almost collapse under all the pressure. So, that said, to every rule there is an exception.
      I understand this concept.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Howie View Post

      For logic to have the death penalty as an unlawful act = If you have a new agreement with regards to a living will, then killing yourself would abolish the agreement and they consider this illegal.
      I have also heard the argument that it should be illegal to kill yourself in public because of the trauma it would inflict on those who see it.
      Those are just a couple of the arguments I have heard. Really, I do not know if there are more or if those have any merit in court or what.
      It some aspects, it all seems a bit unreasonable.

      Any merit in court? Last time I checked, dead people can't talk.
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