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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      I'm not saying there is nothing to that, but I don't understand how the narrator knew that was Neil Armstrong's arm, why saying that a window was "completely filled up by a T.V. camera" meant the camera had to be physically touching the window and not just capturing the whole window in the image, or how the narrator knew that if the camera were touching the window, Earth would have had a smaller image (especially considering how cameras can zoom in and out). Can anybody explain those claims and back them up with anything other than the narrator's assertions? I also don't get why they didn't bring in any experts to interview for that part of the documentary. They didn't show any official text or other documentation. They showed nothing that backs up the assertions. They just had a narrator saying things. They should do better than that when making such enormous claims.

      If the moon landing was really a fake, it would be one of the biggest trips I have ever come across. I would love to know that truth if it is the truth.
      I'm not talking about the arm, I'm talking about the part which the narrator says that they were not intending to tape at all in which the lights come on and you can clearly see Neil fully in front of the camera with the window behind him and the Earth taking up the entire window.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
      I'm not talking about the arm, I'm talking about the part which the narrator says that they were not intending to tape at all in which the lights come on and you can clearly see Neil fully in front of the camera with the window behind him and the Earth taking up the entire window.
      I don't remember that. About where in the video is it? And what proves that if Earth takes up the entire window they are nowhere near the moon?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      I don't remember that. About where in the video is it? And what proves that if Earth takes up the entire window they are nowhere near the moon?
      Its at 8:25. What this shows is that they are so close to the Earth that not all of it can be seen at once through the small window.

      Of course, there is the possibility that this particular footage was taken while they were still close to the earth, and were not claiming that they were far out yet; I don't know. The video doesn't present it well. I wish they would just show the full unedited footage that they recieved from NASA so that the common people could make their own conclusions. It bothers me that whenever the truth of a matter is called in to question, the experts on both sides of the issue mislead in order to bolster their case. Its impossible to really know the truth about so many things because no one who actually knows the real events can be upfront and honest about what goes on.

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      Quote Originally Posted by bluefinger View Post
      Thanks for that link... so yeah, multiple missions, including Apollo 11, placed down laser retroreflectors....

      So yeah... there's the definitive proof.
      Thanks for that. I've heard forever that the moon landing was fake, and when I see stuff like that video I start believing it. I hadn't heard of the laser reflectors.

      Thanks O'nus for posting that video. Glad we got that cleared up.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
      The video doesn't present it well.
      Exactly. If there really is something to what they are saying, they need to make a much more solid documentary about it. They need to show experts making points and backing them up with documentation and demonstrations and so forth. Some voice over making a bunch of assertions is a very weak way to make a case.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      Exactly. If there really is something to what they are saying, they need to make a much more solid documentary about it. They need to show experts making points and backing them up with documentation and demonstrations and so forth. Some voice over making a bunch of assertions is a very weak way to make a case.
      dude thats a 9 minute excerpt from a documentary. Why dont you go ahead and watch the whole documentary?

      And btw the 9 minute excerpt does make the case well...
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      Quote Originally Posted by dragonoverlord View Post
      dude thats a 9 minute excerpt from a documentary. Why dont you go ahead and watch the whole documentary?

      And btw the 9 minute excerpt does make the case well...
      I'm just saying that the nine minute excerpt is just one voice over making a bunch of assertions about recordings. That is a fact.

      If you think it makes the case well, then please answer the questions I have been asking.
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      Quote Originally Posted by dragonoverlord View Post
      And btw the 9 minute excerpt does make the case well...
      It made its case very poorly. Very little of interest there.
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