 Originally Posted by dragonoverlord
There was not a connection between that president of Guatemala and Russia. He did however limit the powr of UFCO and then UFCO spread the lies about its communist ties to Washington and then a coup followed. To me that was scape goating.
I can't say I am an expert on that situation, but how do you know they were "lies"? Any way, I was talking about driving the British out of our country and other things. It worked. Your response still does not answer the big question I keep asking. I want you to explain how giving the United States our biggest reason to continue to stay in Iraq is supposed to drive the United States out of Iraq. The idea makes no sense. I don't have the foggiest idea what the connection is supposed to be. You know what my question is. What is your answer?
 Originally Posted by dragonoverlord
Americans do not have any place in Iraq,They invaded under false pretences and this is unacceptable and obviously Iraqi Insurgents are fighting the occupation to free their country from the grip of a foreign power.
We invaded under many pretenses, such as giving the Hussein regime the stated consequence of lack of compliance with our ceasefire, creating democracy (beyond Israel) in the Middle East, killing terrorists like flies, taking down a terrorist government, and other things. Those are true pretenses. the WMD reports came from six governments and factions of the U.N. The WMD's have not been found, but not finding something is not proof of its nonexistence, and the reports truly were given to us.
And now for the million dollar question once again... Specifically how are the insurgents freeing themselves from the grip of the U.S. by doing exactly what it is that is our reason for remaining? You have yet to explain that.
 Originally Posted by Half/Dreaming
So thats why they strap bombs to two mentally retarted little girls and remote detonate them in the market! For freedom.
Freedom fighters my ass. They are thugs. And you're right!!! Americans have no place in Iraq. Every free country should be taking down oppressive regimes like Saddam's on EVERY CORNER OF THE GLOBE. The entire UN should be in Iraq.
I propose a long, LONG, worldwide war not only on terror, but on OPPRESSION. It would cost many lives, but would ultimately save lives.
Then oppression would be gone for the next 1,000,000 years of human existence. But nobody has the balls to take on such a beast.
I agree with every word of that, but I will add that the U.S. and Britain have the balls to take on part of that beast. If enough of the rest of the world would join us, the U.S. and Britain would be very much inolved in that necessary project. It is nauseating how apathetic most of the rest of the world is.
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