Thread: Federal Medical Marijuana Bill Introduced by Rep. Ron Paul

Originally Posted by psychology student

Hey, Heroin is an effective pain killer, lets legalise that to.

Don't be a jackass, there's a huge fucking difference between Cannabis and Heroin.

Originally Posted by skysaw

I don't understand the eye roll. If marijuana is an effective medication that also happens to be abuseable, why is it any different than most prescription meds?

The difference is it can never kill you

Originally Posted by ninja9578

Why pass the bill? It's legal in many states, but it is rarely used simply because there are better alternatives. Medicine isn't about making statements, it's about using the best medical care and both heroin and THC have more powerful alternatives. I think they are both used only in cases where the patient has allergies or conflicting medication with the alternatives.

It may be legal in many states, but as the Federal Government still has marijuana in any use as Schedule 1 they raid and arrest patients, caregivers and shop owners all the time in the 12 states that it's legal.
Cannabis is the best medical care for some people... what alternatives? Marinol? Sativex? Those are nothing compared to Cannabis... with these pills you can't take only what you need, for some people, such as myself, one toke is all I'd need sometimes... depending on the amount of pain I'm in. I don't want to take a $45 pill cause my knee is bothering me a bit when I can take one hit off a $5 joint and be good for 5 hours.
Some people smoke because they can't physically swallow a pill... whereas someone will blow smoke/vapor near their face and they'll breathe it in automatically.
Some people (AIDS and Chemo patients) use it to eliminate nausea and increase their appetite to eliminate wasting(they're never hungry and they can literally starve themselves to death) the pills don't do this, in fact they make nausea worse and doesn't give them the munchies which is why they use it.
There are many many more reasons, but I won't have enough space to list them all.
The DEA says that MMJ shouldn't be legal cause medicines shouldn't be smoked, there are two alternatives... Vaporizing(no smoke at all) and eating it.

Read this yo.

Originally Posted by skysaw

The problem is related more to state governance and conflicting federal laws than to drugs or healthcare. There is a problem if a state says it's legal, but the feds say it's illegal. There shouldn't be any laws that conflict in this way... it just serves to confuse people and tie up the legal system.

Exactly

Originally Posted by ninja9578

Wait, when did the federal government say that medical marijuana was illegal? I thought that they left it up to the states because I know that many states have legal medical use.

There are far worse federal/state conflicts than this.

States have the right to govern themselves, but when their laws go against Federal law the Feds can interfere if they choose.

Originally Posted by Marvo

Heroin is terrible O.o

Morphine(and Methadone, which is a (semi)legal Heroin withdrawal tool) is actually much worse, withdrawal is about 5x longer and exponentially more intense. Heroin, as opposed to Morphine(and Methadone) is solely illegal cause of the social problems it caused in the late 1800s-early 1900s.

Originally Posted by skysaw

Insulin is injected and can kill someone who "doesn't know what the fuck they are doing." This in itself is not enough reason.

Word. More people have died already this year from an overdose of ASPIRIN than have EVER died from use of Cannabis.

Originally Posted by Dreamworld

How can you even compare them? Have you done research on Cannabis? And what does heroin have anything to do with cannabis?

Nothing, Straw man arguments are Psychology Student's specialty.

Originally Posted by guerilla

nothing, cannabis is the most safe illegal drug EVER.

no deaths reported in nearly 10,000 years of use, those 10,000 years BTW to everyone who doesn't know tested its medical use VERY extensively.

(this wasn't directed to you but rather the person you quoted)

Hammer, meet nail.

Originally Posted by zyna

Exactly. There are people, who are in pain, and who can't take those powerful alternatives you missed to name. Or those alternatives were already exhausted and didn't work for them. And even if they're not many in numbers, they should have the right to relieve their pain. I wouldn't want to force anybody to live in constant pain...
This is not about making a statement about the use of illegal drugs.

Exactly... people say the only people that want MMJ are people that just want to get high, but there are many people who need it.



Interview with one of the last surviving members of a FEDERAL Medical Marijuana project... he gets 600 joints(or something big like that) since 1982 a month until he dies.

Multiple Sclerosis patient Tim Timmons (Read the info next to the video)