Thread: most extreme thing to do to save your life!

One of the only things I wouldn't ever do to save my life is suck another guy's d***. I would never stoop to that level. I would do most other things.

Originally Posted by kingofclutch

One of the only things I wouldn't ever do to save my life is suck another guy's d***. I would never stoop to that level. I would do most other things.

Would you take it up the booty.

Originally Posted by Sandform

Dunno whatever happened to you.


Well you could be on a space ship and then have only one pod left, and then there are like 5 people. Would you kill them to get to it? Or would you take it and let them die?

I'd take it, if I could. That isn't to say that there are one or two people around that I might consider giving the pod to -- even fighting the other people for. However, I would not be acting out of delusions of grandeur about the "selflessness" or "heroicism" of my actions, I'd know exactly what I was doing and why.

Liar liar pants on fire.

It is my contention that those who espouse moral principles are the liars and charlatans.

Pfft see, your perfectly willing to throw OTHER peoples lives away for your own, yet you seem to think that sex with Jackson goes to far.

It's a fate worse than death, I can imagine.

And who the hell are you to think your so special that you get to let the other person who isn't important on a cosmic scale (who the hell gives a damn about the cosmic scale anyway) just like you die to further your own life lol.

Let me point out that I said "we" are worthless, which puts myself under that classification. I'm not acting as if I'm special, I'm acting naturally, as a human being: another member of an advanced (sometimes I question that, though) race of apes on a small rock orbiting a quite average star.

Let me put my view in perspective: I do not believe that the universe, or our lives, has any higher "meaning" or "purpose". We living beings are complex chemical reactions that have a curious property of negative feedback in regards to our environmental conditions, self-reproduction, and, in the human case at least, viral behavior towards our ecosystem. Nothing less, nothing more.

I do not see any phenomena in the universe as being part of some "moral" struggle of "good" against "evil". When we die we do not get rewarded by the Magic Space Wizard for our good behavior. Instead I see amorality and indifference from natural phenomena and most animal behavior. From those who espouse ethical principles, both religious and secular, I see hypocrisy and cynical power-mongering.

I just recognize that humanity is just another animal in an uncaring, indifferint universe, and that once day I'll die and none of it will matter anyways. I ask myself "What is it that I want, why do I want it, and how can I get it?". That's just how we are, when you blow away the smoke and mirrors that the self-concealing facade of artificial ethical systems creates. Be yourself, take everything as it is. Above all, know yourself, and know what your goals are, what you want out of living. That's something we as a society aren't very good at: we spend our time mindlessly accumulating wealth, flipping through the television channels wondering how we're going to kill time while time kills us, indulging in the inane and superficial fads of Western "democracy" and pop culture while our civilization crumbles to dust.

I believe Dostoevsky once wrote, "If there is no God, then everything is permitted.". I like to add to that Nietzche's maxim, "God is dead.".

There is a name for this ethical philosophy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_nihilism

If god existed everything would be permitted anyways, since the only difference is that there is a hell if you do bad. Well in many societies there are prisons for those who do bad.

Anyway, morality does exist, it even exists naturally. It is a part of our natural make up to care about other human beings. So don't say morality doesn't exist. You can learn to care more, and you can learn to care less, but even at birth if you see someone in a position of pain (wretched over on the floor) without ever knowing anything else you will have empathy and fear for their sake.

Their is no divine morality, but there is morality.

You seem to think just because you can choose to do bad things that negates morality.

I should add...that my belief is that whatever a person does you should forgive them because they are what they are, though trust is another issue all together.

*something about humans not important on a cosmic universal scale*

We are all the centre of our multi-dimensional universes. If ANYTHING matters in this universe, it's that you want to keep experiencing it. It is a very profound matter for a sentient being to decide to remove themselves from the only universe they exist in, whether for selfish or altruistic reasons.

I'd like to think that even at the age of 23, if I was in a deadly situation that involved a child or several children I wouldn't hesitate to attempt to save their lives, even if it meant losing my own.

Why? Because I'd rather be dead than have to life with the guilt of not saving a child in peril. I haven't had a very long life, but I've certainly had a longer one than a kid has had. I'd like to think that if I did die saving someone, it would add something to their life. They would know that they shouldn't be alive if not for me, so they'd better damn well make something of themselves and not waste it. In that sense, I'd live on in that person.

Besides, I could think of worse ways to kick the bucket. May as well be remembered for something heroic.

I'd do anything short of cripple myself. Though I'm sure I could lose a hand or something in a pressure situation.