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      His limited government ideals were pretty cool, but the whole racist thing makes him garbage:

      http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/...l.newsletters/

      A lot of his supporters say he had no idea who wrote it, but that's bullshit:

      http://www.reason.com/news/show/124426.html

      Even if they weren't totally his own words, but someone in his office, he would have approved it before it went out.
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      Wesley, ask yourself this, how can a Libertarian, who believes in freedom and rights for all men and women of all races and orientation, be a racist?

      He can't be a racist, and those newsletters were infact published without his permission, please do your research before calling someone a racist.
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      I did do my research, but I also do not believe everything politcians say. He said they were published without his permission, but we don't really know, do we? Besides your claim of all Libertarians believing in equality for all simply isn't true. Look at David Duke, former leader of the KKK. He calls himself Libertarian, and he's racist. Here's a quote on Libertarianism from Wikipedia:

      Libertarianism is a label used by a broad spectrum[1] of political philosophies which prioritize individual liberty and seek to minimize or even eliminate[2] the state.[3][4] What it means to be a libertarian in a political sense is a contentious issue, especially among libertarians themselves. There is no single theory that can be safely identified as the libertarian theory, and probably no single principle or set of principles on which all libertarians can agree.[5] Libertarian is most obviously, however, an antonym of authoritarian.[6]
      Libertarians believe in limited government support, not necessarily equality for all races. Some Libertarians might believe this, but there are others who do not. Show me definitive evidence that those papers were published without permission. There were too many newsletters with negative racial conotations for him not to have known about it. Do some research .
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      Quote Originally Posted by guerilla View Post
      Wesley, ask yourself this, how can a Libertarian, who believes in freedom and rights for all men and women of all races and orientation, be a racist?
      I call it the founding fathers paradox.
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      that paper wasnot written by him
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      Quote Originally Posted by Hercuflea View Post
      that paper wasnot written by him
      That does not mean he disapproved of it.
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      He disapproved of those papers time and time again, long before he was running for president as well.

      Again, research before you throw wild accusations.

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      I don't think he will give it up, he was probably watching fox news where they literally call ron paul a terrorist, or any mainstream news, heck why the hell am I calling it news?

      More like Mainstream propaganda
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      Quote Originally Posted by guerilla View Post
      fox news where they literally call ron paul a terrorist
      ????
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      Well lets see, Bill Kristol was on fox months ago, and called him an unpatriotic quack, and other newscasters jokingly said remarks about dr.paul as if he was a terrorist.

      Things such as: "he takes his marching orders from the iranian president and al qaeda"

      if that doesn't amount to calling him a terrorist, then I don't know what does.

      Apparently, being a REAL patriot in times of these, is considered treason, meanwhile our president and his cronies are commiting treason every second.
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      Quote Originally Posted by guerilla View Post
      Well lets see, Bill Kristol was on fox months ago, and called him an unpatriotic quack, and other newscasters jokingly said remarks about dr.paul as if he was a terrorist.

      Things such as: "he takes his marching orders from the iranian president and al qaeda"
      If Bill Kristol said that, it doesn't mean he was calling Paul a terrorist. I never watched any of what you are talking about, but if somebody talked about marching orders from Al Qaeda, it was a joke about meeting what Al Qaeda and Iran want in terms of U.S. withdrawal from the Middle East. I don't know of any newscasters saying Ron Paul targets and kills civilians for nutty reasons.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal mind
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      You have been outfoxed.




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      Quote Originally Posted by guerilla
      I don't think he will give it up, he was probably watching fox news where they literally call ron paul a terrorist, or any mainstream news, heck why the hell am I calling it news?

      More like Mainstream propaganda
      Hmmm, so because I disagree with your views on Paul I must be a conservative who watches Fox News? Hardly. Obama has my vote even though none of the candidates are that good. Like I said before, I used to like Ron Paul for his limited government ideals. However from what I have read he has racist and very conservative thoughts taht I do not agree with.

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      He disapproved of those papers time and time again, long before he was running for president as well.

      Again, research before you throw wild accusations.
      Examples of this disapproval? I hate it when people say things without facts. Can you please link to sources?

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      Examples of this disapproval?
      Please dont listen to the mainstream corporate spin, thanks

      take the time to read these articles/video

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKBlk...ow/124335.html

      http://www.nolanchart.com/article1134.html

      http://www.nolanchart.com/article1107.html

      http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...journalism.htm --main one

      http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/racism/

      and for the heck of it read this one even though its unrelated: http://infowars.net/articles/july200...08RonPaul2.htm

      thanks
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      Quote Originally Posted by Hercuflea View Post
      Please dont listen to the mainstream corporate spin, thanks

      take the time to read these articles/video

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKBlk...ow/124335.html

      http://www.nolanchart.com/article1134.html

      http://www.nolanchart.com/article1107.html

      http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...journalism.htm --main one

      http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/racism/

      and for the heck of it read this one even though its unrelated: http://infowars.net/articles/july200...08RonPaul2.htm

      thanks
      Thanks for the links, but is there anything there that says he disapproved BEFORE the campaign? Besides, even if he didn't support these papers. He is still very conservative, and I can't vote for him because of his stance on some important issues.
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