Thread: Third parties, who do you like more in the election

Originally Posted by Serkat

Well, duh. The difference is that it's socialized, i.e. you don't pay only for yourself but everybody pays for everybody.No, that's not all. A socialized health care system means that poor people with cancer can seek treatment without having to go on national TV to beg for donations. It means that people don't have to ponder bartering their health for food and clothing.Well, that coming from somebody who's never lived here... Speaking for Germany, doctors are amongst the wealthiest and they do good work.

This is just ignorant. The health care you get here is just fine. It's not like Europe is a bunch of developing nations.
Also, I would be pretty certain that U.S. doctors have made mistakes before so that's really just an ignorant statement to make.

I'm not trying to glorify our healthcare, or trying to say europe is a 3rd world area, I'm just saying socalized medicine is NOT the answer.


I don't believe in any social programs really whatsoever, government getting involved in ANYTHING usually means incompetent bureaucrats running the show.

I just don't agree with people who like the whole universal health care idea, its just not my cup of tea.

I'm sure in germany or other nations there is good care but, I just don't like the system being government run and regulated, if you wanna get to the bottom of me...what I'm trying to really say is:

I do not trust government.

Originally Posted by guerilla

I'm not trying to glorify our healthcare, or trying to say europe is a 3rd world area, I'm just saying socalized medicine is NOT the answer.


I don't believe in any social programs really whatsoever, government getting involved in ANYTHING usually means incompetent bureaucrats running the show.

I just don't agree with people who like the whole universal health care idea, its just not my cup of tea.

I'm sure in germany or other nations there is good care but, I just don't like the system being government run and regulated, if you wanna get to the bottom of me...what I'm trying to really say is:

I do not trust government.

Well, the same goes for me. You're always free to quit and go private insurance though. I'd also like to see something more along the lines of a voucher system or whatever. I think many government-related problems could be reduced if, instead of the services being run by the government the government would act like a broker or organizer between private individuals and companies, i.e. privatizing most stuff, loosening regulation and merely distributing the money for the different sectors to the individuals, like schools, education, health, insurances etc. Also, some of these government services should be mandatory (police, government systems, education, health, public property etc.), while others should be voluntary. This would increase efficiency, thereby saving tax-payer's money, giving them more freedom to choose, more competition, and still maintaining a certain level of social security for the poor.

Serkat for President 2008!