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      I know you guys disagree with my stance but, im sticking with it reguardless of human rights, I'm just a strict strict libertarian I guess.



      Before the US healthcare system was ****ed over it was a whole lot better then any universal plan, costs of drugs were low, prices of insurance were low, and everything was truly affordable up and down the line.

      Since HMO's and all of that bologna was introduced, prices have just skyrocketed...

      NHS would not fix our problems imo in the USA, NHS will not be any better then the sham of a system we have left.
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      Quote Originally Posted by guerilla View Post
      I know you guys disagree with my stance but, im sticking with it reguardless of human rights, I'm just a strict strict libertarian I guess.

      Before the US healthcare system was ****ed over it was a whole lot better then any universal plan, costs of drugs were low, prices of insurance were low, and everything was truly affordable up and down the line.

      Since HMO's and all of that bologna was introduced, prices have just skyrocketed...

      NHS would not fix our problems imo in the USA, NHS will not be any better then the sham of a system we have left.
      Probably would work if all the money spent on war was actually diverted into improving the country.

      Still, human rights are important, regardless of what stance you take. My solution for the US would be a comprehensive mix of public hospitals (owned and funded by the government, etc) and privately-owned hospitals. That way, you have two systems that overlap and help cover everyone, regardless of where they are on the socio-economic scale. Everyone pays taxes, so they should be guaranteed services on certain things. Also, such a system drives competition between private and public sector, and generally ensures (or more likely ensures) a decent service on both sides. This is generally the case in the UK, but on a smaller scale.
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      Well, I kind of like THAT idea, it suits people like me who like private, and people like you who like social.

      I recommend you run for congress

      (only if I don't have to pay taxes for dead beats)
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      guerilla,

      What you may not realize is that some people can't get insurance at all, and it has little to do with money. Insurers automatically refuse to cover people with certain histories. My wife was once denied coverage from one company because she had once used a prescription medication for acne. Another company denied her because she is only 5 feet tall. Read that again: She was denied coverage because she is only 5 feet tall.

      Pay for it yourself, you say? Ok, let's look at that...

      The majority of doctors will not see a patient who does not have insurance even if that patient has cash in his pocket! Cash is not good enough (especially for emergency hospital visits). They all want you to be covered.

      As you can probably figure out, this makes it very hard to be treated if you don't qualify to obtain insurance. If you want a system where we can all just pay for ourselves, we don't have that either.
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      Well, thats where the bluefinger health insurance system comes in
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      Quote Originally Posted by guerilla View Post
      Well, thats where the bluefinger health insurance system comes in
      Well ok then... sign me up!
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