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      Pedophilia - How wide spread is it?

      I was browsing through 4chan, I clicked on the random/misc section. So there I was, minding my own business when I run across a normal, adult (or at least someone who seemed near my age) in a "sexy pose." All seems normal right? Then, being the pervert I am, I click on it to see the thread that resulted from that pick. Little did I know it was going to be full of little boys.

      The thread was not something I thought very, um, good? It was full of pictures of LITTLE boys, like tiny, with guys or girls saying "moar" and etc. I didn't browse through it completely but there was one picture with a boy who was very little, and he was sitting in a pose with no clothes on and only a towel lieing on his crotch.

      So yeah. It must be pretty freaking widespread, when prompted as to "why' they didn't stop posting that kind of stuff after protest was already stated, they said no, when asked to go back to "12chan" they responded that it was down.

      The first time I heard about 12chan was when someone in the D.V. community told someone who was posting images of underage girls on here to "get their 12chan ass out of here." I've never seen 12chan, and I don't intend on seeing it any time soon. I'm amazed that something like that could exist, how that could possibly be allowed is just insane to me.

      I'm confused really as to what is going on here. I don't think that 15 year olds, for me personally, aren't capable of being attractive. But honestly, little tiny boys and girls? Really?

      So really I'm left questioning a few things.

      Is it better to have these things still up online to satisfy these people's lust without allowing kids to come into harm?

      These kids who are online, are they being sexually abused, or just abused in general? If so, how can anyone permit these things to go on? Sadly I know that if it isn't happening in your own country there is very little legally you can do, mainly because you wont be able to find out where it is happening, only that it is happening.

      Finally, in counter claim to my original statement, that it might satisfy their urges, will these instead create people who actually become abusive instead of pacifying them?

      I'm less worried about the fact that there are people who enjoy having thoughts of little kids in their head and more worried about what that might lead to actually causing to happen in the real world.

      Finally my question is, how wide spread is it? Is it occuring in so many people that it is becoming dangerous? Or are people who images on the internet attractive not something to worry about?


      So, for those of you who are studying psychology, or those of you who just have an opinion, what is it that can be done about these kinds of things, because apparently just "asking them to leave," or "go back to 12chan," isn't working.
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      Sometimes humanity is downright disgusting. I don't know the answer to most of your questions, but personally, I doubt that looking at these pictures pacifies would-be aggressors. It probably makes it worse for them, if anything. In my psych class in college, we were shown a study where it was concluded that men who watch violent porn are more likely to be violent in person. I think maybe it's a similar situation here.

      I don't know what to do about this except just sit here and be fucking pissed off.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant View Post
      Sometimes humanity is downright disgusting. I don't know the answer to most of your questions, but personally, I doubt that looking at these pictures pacifies would-be aggressors. It probably makes it worse for them, if anything. In my psych class in college, we were shown a study where it was concluded that men who watch violent porn are more likely to be violent in person. I think maybe it's a similar situation here.

      I don't know what to do about this except just sit here and be fucking pissed off.
      Uh, I didn't mean to piss you off, but I'm in the same boat with you. Sometimes I'm a little bit scared of being one of those creepy people since my grandfather was one...I read some information on the internet and some people claim they see a coorelation with genetics. If I ever got to the point where I would actually consider something like pedophilia as a viable option...I don't know I think I would kill myself.

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      Pedophelia seems to me like the only sexual orientation that is totally unacceptable.
      Gay people just find other gay people of the sex. Sado Masochists have a good deal going as 1 likes sodomising during sex and the other likes being sodomised during sex.

      But Pedophiles crave Children. Children have no sexual desire yet. Children have little knowledge of how sexuality works. Children have an underdevelped sexual awareness as well as underdeveloped sexual organs. So the argument of many Pedophiles "In greek and Roman ancient times it was very normal to have sex with little boys" means very little to me as in that time Mass slavery of conquered peoples was also very normal.

      No matter how they argue it, Pedophiles have intentions to do with Children what would do them alot of HARM. Maybe we should massively enslave them to pay the price for the harm they've done.
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      This is an excellent topic. Everyone's answers will be based from their internal programmings which are formulated from their values/beliefs etc. Anyway...pedophilia was not a "taboo" thing in the olden days. It was not uncommon for grown American men to marry young 15 yr. old and younger girls. However, in today's society...(given where we are) things have drastically changed...or have they? Grown men marrying very very young ladies and having sex with them is still being done in some villages and tribes. I don't think they have perverse intentions though. But let's step over to our society and how we view it...it's wrong by our perceptions, and us being in agreement with that makes it so. Do I condone pedophilia and having sex with minors? Hell to the no. However I find it's interesting how taboo some things have become. 300 years ago this conversation would never take place. So that begs the question...what about having sex/marrying underage minors is wrong? The fact that society now deems it unacceptable or that "God" does? Does society dictate what "God" sees as morally/legally right or not? Polygamy is another subject now seen as taboo. However hundreds of years ago it was not only condoned...but women as a whole didn't mind sharing their husband with other women (probably because it was acceptable by society's standpoint). Hypothetically speaking...what if 200 years from now wearing white becomes taboo...and our future ancestors will turn their noses up when they read history books about how people "back then" wore white quite frequently. I mean...whose authorizing these perceptual changes in how we are to view and not to view things?
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      Jeff I think you posted before seeing SKA's post... I think he hit it on the nail.

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      I believe 4chan isn't really representative of the rest of the internet.

      Probably kiddy-porn isn't all that rampant on the internet. From what I see in the news, I think there are more 'underground' (non-public) internet kiddy-porn sites.

      But meh, kiddy porn (on the internet) isn't as much the problem as the assholes making the kiddy porn.

      It is pretty unique that sexual abuse of children is the Only crime that is also illegal to watch. But it's quite logical. You don't want to give the fuckers another reason for makking the kiddy porn (namely money).

      Anyhow. Just give em kiddy fiddlers a great fat bunch of mind-numbing shit or something. Anti-viagra, whatever.
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      "Pedophilia" really wasn't discovered until the internet.

      Back before the internet, taking baby pictures of your kid running through the house naked and screaming was parenthood.

      Now its pedophilia.

      Society sucks.

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      Quote Originally Posted by arby View Post
      "Pedophilia" really wasn't discovered until the internet.

      Back before the internet, taking baby pictures of your kid running through the house naked and screaming was parenthood.

      Now its pedophilia.

      Society sucks.
      I would disagree with almost all of what you just said...
      Quote Originally Posted by Neruo View Post
      But meh, kiddy porn (on the internet) isn't as much the problem as the assholes making the kiddy porn.
      I would agree, I'm more worried about what is happening to the kids who are being photographed. The odds are they are being abused beyond just being taken advantage of on the camera, and their minds are being warped.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Sandform View Post

      I would agree, I'm more worried about what is happening to the kids who are being photographed. The odds are they are being abused beyond just being taken advantage of on the camera, and their minds are being warped.
      Indeed. But some silly people at 4chan or whatever aren't really going to increase the amount of children that get (emotionally) abused. As far as I can see.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Neruo View Post
      Indeed. But some silly people at 4chan or whatever aren't really going to increase the amount of children that get (emotionally) abused. As far as I can see.
      These 4chan guys were the ones that were exiled from 4chan and all the other chans until they went to 12chan. The reason they were there is because 12chan was down.

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      Which begs the question...what kind of lifeless husks sitting at their PC monitors do they have to be to "have to" resort to visiting and posting on an image board (not a task vital to survival or even well-being in general) while the one they tend to visit is down?

      As for my view on the topic at hand...slaughter them all.
      The sooner we start slaughtering for immorality, the sooner society will stop being so "disgusting". But will anyone listen? Nooo. Got to have tolerance...always with the tolerance.

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      12chan is far from the only chan containing that sort of material.
      You merely have to change your point of view slightly, and then that glass will sparkle when it reflects the light.

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