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      Republicans are in trouble!

      Basically, they are going to lose, maybe in a landslide. Not only that, but the Democrats will control everything, lol. Basically, Republicans are now trying to save their states from turning blue.

      Some Republicans even called for McCain to only put time in the red states and forget about winning and just try and save the party. Not only that, but stories are coming through about Palin trying to go rogue, and basically she's focusing on 2012.

      So after McCain loses the religious right side of Republican are going to go to war on the moderate side of Republican, i.e. the people who support Palin and the people who think Palin was a big mistake.

      Eight days left.

      I hope to god that Palin doesn't become president in 2012. She's an idiot http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=HCXqKEs68Xk and I think if she gets elected then thats bye bye to science in America.

      P.S. Bush destroyed the Republican party, I wonder what they will do now. Saying that all they had to do is not screw up the economy, and they couldn't even do that.

      P.S.S. Fruit fly research is proberly the most cost effective way to study effects of genes, also as noted it helps to understand genetics and diseases like Autism. Seriously, she could have googled fruit fly research before she said how it's a waste of money.
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      Palin won't become president in 2012 because president Obama (can we start calling him that yet?) will be a good president and win 2012 too. And the republican higher ups are already planning the blame on Palin for loosing the election.

      Don't count the republicans out yet. Remember, as far as we know there have been two cases of presidential election fraud, both were republicans.

      The republicans will bounce back eventually. Bush destroyed their party, but then again so did Nixon. It will just take a while to get them back, in the mean time the liberals have to do everything that we can to fix the country and move it forward before the republicans come back to destroy it again.

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      The fundamentalist Christian republican party isn't in trouble as long as there still are 100+ million hopelessly ignorant Americans who believe all democrats are spawns of Satan.

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      Don't forget the, "Holy shit! Now that I am really about to vote, I realize tht this is REALITY and not just some silly college campus coffee shop image game! We are at war with terrorists and facing a depression while Obama's spiritual advisor is an America hating racist, his economic advisor is in prison, and he used to give speeches in favor of a terrorist who attacked the United States! And this is no time for socialism! Bad idea! Bad idea!!!!" factor. McCain is going to win. But his win will of course be blamed on voter fraud and not the factor I just described. When that happens, keep in mind that McCain never had anything to do with Acorn.

      You don't believe me? Just watch.
      You are dreaming right now.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      Don't forget the, "Holy shit! Now that I am really about to vote, I realize tht this is REALITY and not just some silly college campus coffee shop image game! We are at war with terrorists and facing a depression while Obama's spiritual advisor is an America hating racist, his economic advisor is in prison, and he used to give speeches in favor of a terrorist who attacked the United States! And this is no time for socialism! Bad idea! Bad idea!!!!" factor. McCain is going to win. But his win will of course be blamed on voter fraud and not the factor I just described. When that happens, keep in mind that McCain never had anything to do with Acorn.

      You don't believe me? Just watch.
      You have to remember; the nuts that believe that tripe don't sit around in coffee shops.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
      You have to remember; the nuts that believe that tripe don't sit around in coffee shops.
      Coffee shops are infested with Obama supporters. Social image bullshit is what drives Obama's popularity, not a sincere will to create the best possible reality.
      You are dreaming right now.

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      We're at war and facing a depression because of Bush screw ups. Why do you think a bush supporting moron can fix things?

      Are you talking about reverend wrights out of context god damn america remark again? Did you even look at the video of the whole speech? Do you not remember that the terrorist from the 70s is now a doctor and a man devoted to charity and man of the year in Chicago in the early 2000s while George Bush is an unrelenting terrorist and anti-american? McCain supported George Bush!

      I was hoping that even you could be convinced that in a time of crisis we need someone how will fix the crisis, not make it worse.

      If McCain wins it will be fraud and it will eventually be found out. Just because people say that something in fraud doesn't make it not true. Do you honestly not believe that Nixon didn't commit fraud or that Katherine Harris didn't give Bush a 32000 vote lead to start off with even though everyone knows that they did?

      Why do you hate coffee shops? Intellectuals don't congregate in gun shops.
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      All I can say is, I hope this pushes the neo-con bs out of the republican party and returns it to what it use to be...which is now called libertarian but shouldnt be.
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      Libertarians are essentially confederates, not republicans. Republicans believe in a government in total control like in the Orwell work 1984, Libertarians believe that states should have control over themselves and there should be a tiny federal government. Those are complete opposites.

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      uh, yeah, but the republicans "use" to be the ones who wanted a small government before the neo-con movement
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      Quote Originally Posted by tkdyo View Post
      uh, yeah, but the republicans "use" to be the ones who wanted a small government before the neo-con movement
      The republicans also used to be pro civil rights. Lincoln actually freed the slaves, now neo-cons want to incorporate their bigotry of homosexuality into the constitution. The republicans have been on the wrong side of progress in almost everything that mattered for a long time:

      They supported Vietnam
      They supported Big Tobacco
      They opposed the civil rights movement
      They still oppose the environmental movement
      They still support runaway military budgets
      they still oppose women's rights to abortions
      They still oppose gay rights

      Sorry if I lumped you in with that group, I know not all republicans are that backwards, but that's the majority. I know UM supports women's and gay rights.

      McCain is criticizing Obama on wanting bigger government. Yeah, but that means that he wants more support for the people by the government such as health care, schooling, and police. McCain wants bigger government too, but he wants the total control government that is hidden from the people like Bush.
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      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      We're at war and facing a depression because of Bush screw ups. Why do you think a bush supporting moron can fix things?

      Are you talking about reverend wrights out of context god damn america remark again? Did you even look at the video of the whole speech? Do you not remember that the terrorist from the 70s is now a doctor and a man devoted to charity and man of the year in Chicago in the early 2000s while George Bush is an unrelenting terrorist and anti-american? McCain supported George Bush!

      I was hoping that even you could be convinced that in a time of crisis we need someone how will fix the crisis, not make it worse.

      If McCain wins it will be fraud and it will eventually be found out. Just because people say that something in fraud doesn't make it not true. Do you honestly not believe that Nixon didn't commit fraud or that Katherine Harris didn't give Bush a 32000 vote lead to start off with even though everyone knows that they did?

      Why do you hate coffee shops? Intellectuals don't congregate in gun shops.
      I like coffee shops, but they are good for illustrating social image over social well being. Nixon was a criminal, but Katherine Harris is not one as far as I know. Gore was just a very, very sore loser. How many recounts did he need?

      We are at war because we have to be, and we are having economic problems because of political correctness. Have you heard the tapes of Barney Frank and the gang saying the lower standards in housing loans are a great thing? Reverend Wright said a lot that is racist and anti-American, and his friendship with Louis Farrakhan speaks volumes. Obama marched in Farrakhan's march. That is racist as Hell. What if David Duke had a Million White Man March and McCain marched in it? What would you be saying about it? If you saw the congregation's reaction to Reverend Pfleger's comments, you saw the mind set of Obama's church for twenty years. Ayers is still unrepentant, and Obama has known that the whole time. Obama is a screwy candidate, big time. He is completely out of the question.

      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      Sorry if I lumped you in with that group, I know not all republicans are that backwards, but that's the majority. I know UM supports women's and gay rights.
      And legal drugs, legal prostitution, abortion rights for the first two trimesters, legal flag desecration, 100% separation of church and state, and other things. Remember that I am not a Republican. I think you keep assuming that I am because I have even more problems with the Democratic Party than I do with the Republican Party. That is because economics and foreign policy are far more important than the other issues. For the record.... I am not a Republican.
      You are dreaming right now.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      Coffee shops are infested with Obama supporters. Social image bullshit is what drives Obama's popularity, not a sincere will to create the best possible reality.
      So what you are saying is, you don't like it when the president's image doesn't represent the bible belt. I got you. Every presidential candidate wants to create the best possible reality. The question is actually, for whom?

      If you think McCain has any of your interests in mind (besides ethnic cleansing) you are sorely mistaken.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      The republicans also used to be pro civil rights. Lincoln actually freed the slaves, now neo-cons want to incorporate their bigotry of homosexuality into the constitution. The republicans have been on the wrong side of progress in almost everything that mattered for a long time:

      They supported Vietnam
      They supported Big Tobacco
      They opposed the civil rights movement
      They still oppose the environmental movement
      They still support runaway military budgets
      they still oppose women's rights to abortions
      They still oppose gay rights

      Sorry if I lumped you in with that group, I know not all republicans are that backwards, but that's the majority. I know UM supports women's and gay rights.

      McCain is criticizing Obama on wanting bigger government. Yeah, but that means that he wants more support for the people by the government such as health care, schooling, and police. McCain wants bigger government too, but he wants the total control government that is hidden from the people like Bush.
      yeah, the republican party has definitely evolved in a way that would make Lincoln roll over in his grave. Im actually quite tired of two parties getting to decide who we vote for.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      Nixon was a criminal, but Katherine Harris is not one as far as I know. Gore was just a very, very sore loser. How many recounts did he need?
      No, Katherine Harris rigged the election, that's common knowledge.

      We are at war because we have to be
      An assasination attempt on W's father is a personal vendetta. The US military is not for personal vendettas, it's for real wars like Afghanistan. We are not in Iraq because we have to be. Don't use crap like liberation of Iraq as a reason, what about Darfur, we aren't there.

      Reverend Wright said a lot that is racist and anti-American, and his friendship with Louis Farrakhan speaks volumes. Obama marched in Farrakhan's march. That is racist as Hell. What if David Duke had a Million White Man March and McCain marched in it?

      What would you be saying about it? If you saw the congregation's reaction to Reverend Pfleger's comments, you saw the mind set of Obama's church for twenty years. Ayers is still unrepentant, and Obama has known that the whole time. Obama is a screwy candidate, big time. He is completely out of the question.
      Supporting one cause does not mean that he supports everything that Farrakhan does. Damn, I know of a good picture to prove the point, but I can't find it. It's a picture from Kentucky where people were trying to fix the problem of poverty there. In it were Jimmy Carter (one of the greatest americans) and Jerry Falwell (one of the worst.) Even people who disagree entirely can sometimes see eye to eye for a common good.

      That is because economics and foreign policy are far more important than the other issues. For the record.... I am not a Republican.
      then why are you against someone who can fix the economy with a VP who knows more about foreign policy than anyone?

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      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      No, Katherine Harris rigged the election, that's common knowledge.
      No, it's a common left wing lie.

      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      An assasination attempt on W's father is a personal vendetta. The US military is not for personal vendettas, it's for real wars like Afghanistan. We are not in Iraq because we have to be. Don't use crap like liberation of Iraq as a reason, what about Darfur, we aren't there.
      You need to read much further down the list of reasons, or actually up the list of reasons. I have explained this to you a great deal now. You are ignoring a lot.

      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      Supporting one cause does not mean that he supports everything that Farrakhan does. Damn, I know of a good picture to prove the point, but I can't find it. It's a picture from Kentucky where people were trying to fix the problem of poverty there. In it were Jimmy Carter (one of the greatest americans) and Jerry Falwell (one of the worst.) Even people who disagree entirely can sometimes see eye to eye for a common good.
      So you would not object if McCain did a David Duke march? I don't believe that for a second.

      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      then why are you against someone who can fix the economy with a VP who knows more about foreign policy than anyone?
      They are both full of shit and in it only for image. They are not about reality outside of their own images and power. Socialism will not fix the economy. It will just make knuckleheads at the coffee shop feel rebellious. Things are way too serious for this shit.

      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
      So what you are saying is, you don't like it when the president's image doesn't represent the bible belt.
      Yeah, you know me.

      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
      If you think McCain has any of your interests in mind (besides ethnic cleansing) you are sorely mistaken.
      Am I supposed to take that seriously?
      You are dreaming right now.

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      What will fix the economy, UM? So far you've provided no reason why McCain's plan would work better than Obama's, you just associate him with socialism and beatniks and think you've made your point.

      I suggest that all the people sitting in Church Group meetings and Parents For Pure Learning meetings talking about how Obama is a terrorist are going to get inside the voting booth and be like "Wait, this is serious!" and realize Obama is the only way the economy has any chance of pulling through.

      Then again maybe everyone will just vote for who they say they'll vote for and Obama will win, anyway.

      Yeah, and the elections were rigged last time, you're absolutely retarded. You have never looked up a shrapnel of evidence as to why they were rigged because you like Bush. You can't discredit something with your pride alone, it doesn't count. A diebold spokesperson admitted it, case is fucking closed. It's harder to argue the case for that then JFK's assassination.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnius Deus View Post
      What will fix the economy, UM? So far you've provided no reason why McCain's plan would work better than Obama's, you just associate him with socialism and beatniks and think you've made your point.

      I suggest that all the people sitting in Church Group meetings and Parents For Pure Learning meetings talking about how Obama is a terrorist are going to get inside the voting booth and be like "Wait, this is serious!" and realize Obama is the only way the economy has any chance of pulling through.

      Then again maybe everyone will just vote for who they say they'll vote for and Obama will win, anyway.

      Yeah, and the elections were rigged last time, you're absolutely retarded. You have never looked up a shrapnel of evidence as to why they were rigged because you like Bush. You can't discredit something with your pride alone, it doesn't count. A diebold spokesperson admitted it, case is fucking closed. It's harder to argue the case for that then JFK's assassination.
      McCain is not a socialist. And you could not possibly agree with Obama's economic ideas if you also support Ron Paul's economic ideas. The two are unreconcilable.

      I don't know anybody saying Obama is a terrorist. People are saying he is big buds with an unrepentant terrorist, which means he would be soft as a pillow on terrorism and is a dipshit of a person.

      Your left wing fanatic books might say the election was rigged, but recount after recount didn't. Democrats are just sore losers, which is why they are Democrats in the first place.
      You are dreaming right now.

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      Hey everyone! Did you know that England, France, Japan, Germany, Norway, Sweden, Canada, Spain, Portugal, Finland, Israel, and Americans over 65 are socialists?

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      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      Hey everyone! Did you know that England, France, Japan, Germany, Norway, Sweden, Canada, Spain, Portugal, Finland, Israel, and Americans over 65 are socialists?
      Some of them are. The wealthiest ones are not.
      You are dreaming right now.

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      Even though every one of them votes for their leaders and supports health care? And they have very similar economic and political views as Barrack Obama?

      Do you remember history class? What was the war of 1776 about? Fighting to end the tyranny of a totalitarian king.

      McCain is Bush. Bush is a totalitarian.

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      Recount?

      You moron, the voting machines leave no paper trail.

      And again, How will McCain help the economy? So far not being a socialist is not a form of help, it's just a lack of having a plan. And fr your information, we don't live in a purist capitalist economy. We already give billions of tax dollars to our industries. "Socialism" is just used to associate everything the government does to directly help the people as bad.

      And I answered this question before, Ron Paul had a plan, Obama had a plan. McCain's plan is unfortunately 4 more years of deregulation and desperation. Hopefully everyone all the people in the volunteer police department will see past the smear campaign trying to make Obama look like a terrorist and realize this is a real election and a real country and it needs a real president. It doesn't need a cancer suffering old man and his retarded friend.
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      Yes, Katherine Harris rigged the electronic vote.

      McCain has an economic plan, haven't you been reading UM's posts? He's going to let the economy spiral out of control with deregulation and runaway military spending and blame the democratic congress. Where's the post saying that the current problem is Clinton's fault and Clinton's prosperity was because of Reagan?

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      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      Even though every one of them votes for their leaders and supports health care? And they have very similar economic and political views as Barrack Obama?
      We turned Japan into a capitalist country. That is why they are the second richest country in the world. What are you talking about? Germany is in third place. Voting for leaders is not socialist, and neither is "supporting health care". They have an element of socialism like we do, but they are not socialist nations.

      Quote Originally Posted by ninja9578 View Post
      Do you remember history class? What was the war of 1776 about? Fighting to end the tyranny of a totalitarian king.

      McCain is Bush. Bush is a totalitarian.
      You just really lost it with that one.

      Quote Originally Posted by Omnius Deus View Post
      Recount?

      You moron, the voting machines leave no paper trail.

      And again, How will McCain help the economy? So far not being a socialist is not a form of help, it's just a lack of having a plan. And fr your information, we don't live in a purist capitalist economy. We already give billions of tax dollars to our industries. "Socialism" is just used to associate everything the government does to directly help the people as bad.

      And I answered this question before, Ron Paul had a plan, Obama had a plan. McCain's plan is unfortunately 4 more years of deregulation and desperation. Hopefully everyone all the people in the volunteer police department will see past the smear campaign trying to make Obama look like a terrorist and realize this is a real election and a real country and it needs a real president. It doesn't need a cancer suffering old man and his retarded friend.
      There were several recounts. Look it up. Dick head.

      I am not a big McCain supporter. I just know that he has proven his dedication to this country undeniably while being enough of a capitalist to get my vote over that coffee shop image crock of shit who loves those who want to destroy us.

      Ron Paul and Barack Obama the terrorism condoner have opposite economic plans. The fact that you support both of them proves your insincerity. You are all about hating Republicans because you are a jealous, personality disordered person who resents the successful, and you center your life around that. It is what makes you such a rotten person.
      You are dreaming right now.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      We turned Japan into a capitalist country. That is why they are the second richest country in the world. What are you talking about? Germany is in third place. Voting for leaders is not socialist, and neither is "supporting health care". They have an element of socialism like we do, but they are not socialist nations.
      You call Obama a socialist because he believes in health care for everyone. Japan and Germany both have socialized medicine.

      You just really lost it with that one.
      A government with an all-powerful ruler is called totalitarian. A totalitarian leader doesn't abide by the constitution, and is allowed to tap phones without warrants send people to camps with little evidence that they are terrorists and keep them their indefinitely, fear monger the dumb people into thinking that their opponents are weak or terrorists, and say that he has the ability to override the congress.

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