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      Quote Originally Posted by dajo View Post
      First of all. Thanks a lot Oneironaut for the many useful articles and topics you have posted on this board, I enjoyed a lot (all?) of them.

      Even a couple years ago I was very sceptic about anything not scientificly proven and especially widely known as true! Over time more and more things presented to me as fact, especially by the maintsream media turned out to be false or missing the point. And when I researched a lot of them - politics, science, spirituality, religion,.. anything pretty much - myself, I usually got a different and own opinion on all of these suspects. (Pretty far from the usual I'd say)

      There are a lot of credible scientists who acknowledge the limits of science. There are a lot of them who go further and presenting their findings, of course with the risk of being wrong. But that is the way to evolve! Also (adressing some previous post) in my opinion it was explained many times, why new findings were not accepted publicly. There is the government who would have to change in their policies, there are the industries, who would loose money (pharmacutical for example in the fields of medicin) and there is the collapse of ones own belief system. Just look at history.

      And when I started listenig to people with the better and more convincing arguments, while listenig to different sides and opinions, I really opened up my beliefs on what might be true and what might be possibe. That is actualy how I got to lucid dreaming, I only had one real one so far, but that was after believing that it is possible and trying out the GREAT techniques on this board. (Thanks for that btw!!!) So, basically, I kind of just stopped ruling anything out in general, I just find some things more believable than others.

      What I don't understand is why people are so opposed to the 'unthinkable'. Reading this article I thought, 'wow, that would be great if it was true, lets see what it is about'. It wouldn't hurt me, I know I have a working mind and I am pretty convinced in myself that I will not loose it over an interesting, yet maybe 'out there', hypothesis.

      Well, now I actually believe a bunch of things others deem impossible, but what I also know is that I know a lot of things others deem impossibel (for example lucid dreaming). I am learning a lot more that way and to be honest - it's a lot of fun, trying to find out the truth behind things. Just don't be afraid to be wrong once in a while. :-)

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      sorry, I tend to write long posts sometimes.
      Very refreshing post, dajo. I think it's a very respectable mindset that you have (in regards to how you are open enough to an idea to look into it before making up your mind, based on assumption), and I'm glad you enjoy some of the threads that I've been making.

      Quote Originally Posted by juroara View Post
      thanks for you enlightening post Oneironaut
      Anytime.

      Quote Originally Posted by spaceexplorer View Post
      I'm completely with WendyLove on this.
      She is giving well researched, intelligent responses.
      Whilst people like jef777 arguments are bordering on nonsensical.
      Jeff isn't the only person debating with wendylove. If you believe that what I've been saying is "un-researched", "unintelligent" and/or "bordering on nonsensical" then, by all means, address it.
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      Quote Originally Posted by spaceexplorer View Post
      I'm completely with WendyLove...
      I stopped reading after this.
      Things are not as they seem

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