Thread: White Privilege

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

I mean that dispite the fact that they have a different culture compared to mine, they are also white like me.
Which means that skin colour is irrelevant. I'm European, you're most likely American. Different cultures, but that's because of the distance between us, not the colour of our skin.
By the way, I see different skin colors as a good example of the human ability to adapt to our enviroment. Black skin in the really hot and sunny enviroment, white in the colder areas... Brilliant.
None is superior or inferior. By saying that one is better than the other you prove your own inferiority by proving that you know nothing about evolution at all.

I agree with this post, however I think you've mistaken the article entirely. The article isn't about superior or inferior skin. It's about her theory on white privilege which gives white people more options, privileges and better treatment in life based (as opposed to the other races) on being born white. Her reasons are listed in the OP. If anything, it exemplifies how we as a human species still have a long way to go if generalizations and judgments are still being made based on ones skin color...which is something the author cites as advantageous to her and the white race as a whole.

That's what I was wanting to extract opinions on, whatever they may be. The article isn't about whose skin is better than whose. It's about an unspoken "hush hush" notion that society gives you better advantages if you're born with white skin, what those advantages may be, and how they may have taken a part in your life.

What is "society"? What society? I think it's normal that in a white society blacks are considered to be... different from the norm.
I don't see why a white society should adapt to all other cultures out there. It's not like they do the same for us where they come from.

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

What is "society"? What society? I think it's normal that in a white society blacks are considered to be... different from the norm.
I don't see why a white society should adapt to all other cultures out there. It's not like they do the same for us where they come from.

You do know that America is "The Great Melting Pot" right? So this "white society" this and "black society" that is an oxymoron if you ask me (presupposing we're being politically correct). Deeming America to be a "white society" undermines the very meaning of what it is to be a melting pot. Or perhaps you're using the term based on who holds the greatest populace in America? At any rate the above post conflicts with your earlier one which states "We are all equal". In this one you get into "white society" this and "whites shouldn't have to adapt to minorities this because they don't do it for us that". Make up your mind dude...seriously, you're flopping worse than John Kerry in the 2004 election. At any rate I digress, so to get back on point...you're still not interpreting the article correctly because you're stating irrelevant cultural divisions between two races (as if one culture was exclusive to a set race anyway ). Read the article again (in it's entirety) and then post.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

You do know that America is "The Great Melting Pot" right? So this "white society" this and "black society" that is an oxymoron if you ask me (presupposing we're being politically correct). Deeming America to be a "white society" undermines the very meaning of what it is to be a melting pot. Or perhaps you're using the term based on who holds the greatest populace in America? At any rate the above post conflicts with your earlier one which states "We are all equal". In this one you get into "white society" this and "whites shouldn't have to adapt to minorities this because they don't do it for us that". Make up your mind dude...seriously, you're flopping worse than John Kerry in the 2004 election. At any rate I digress, so to get back on point...you're still not interpreting the article correctly because you're stating irrelevant cultural lines between two races (as if one culture was exclusive to a set race anyway ). Read the article again (in it's entirety) and then post.

Yes, we are equal. But I will not allow my culture to be lost because they want us to change. By the way I'm not talking about America, I'm talking about west-europe. It's a simple fact that western culture dominates in the west. And that's the way it should be. African culture rule in Africa, asian ones in Asia etc.. And that's fine.

What is it you want? Do you want all of our differences to disappear? I hope this never happens.
Interesting thing to think about: A few years back some nut from palestine came to Belgium and demanded that the goverment made arabic an official language. If that isn't outrageous then I don't know what is.

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

Yes, we are equal. But I will not allow my culture to be lost because they want us to change. By the way I'm not talking about America, I'm talking about west-europe. It's a simple fact that western culture dominates in the west. And that's the way it should be. African culture rule in Africa, asian ones in Asia etc.. And that's fine.

I see what you're saying now.

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

What is it you want? Do you want all of our differences to disappear? I hope this never happens.

Why do you assume that is what I want? I never made any mention of that. And furthermore why is it about what I want? I think that's irrelevant to the purpose of this thread. Your question is not very specific at all. At any rate...I am still baffled at how you arrived at a presupposition about me wanting all of our racial differences to disappear. How you managed to extract that from my five posts is beyond me.

OK. So I believe people from all cultures should be given equal RIGHTS in countries, especially the US. But complaining about music or haircuts is just ridiculous.

Originally Posted by High Hunter

I think it's weird how other cultures, races, or "colors", never really complain about this kind of stuff. It seems like african americans really want full power. White people forcefully took America from the natives, and you never see them ranting about how they should be equal. I understand and ackowledge the brutal past...african american were brought here as slaves, which is horrible, but now they are at peace. Isn't that enough?

I mean the Whites have privileges here, because they took over the land. If asians took over America back then, would people always hate on yellow privileges? (lol I don't mean that in a racist way at all). It makes sense to me. Asians and all kinds of new cultures are allowed within now, and are just as powerful as whites and blacks nowadays. I mean look at the president-elect.

I think the more we focus on the differences, the longer they will linger around. Let's concentrate on being equal more, no?

Sorry just ranting I love the multi-cultured world of today! Full of fresh and exotic ideas.

Agreed. Racism isn't going away.. It's just changing into racism against whites.

I think it's weird how other cultures, races, or "colors", never really complain about this kind of stuff. It seems like african americans really want full power. White people forcefully took America from the natives, and you never see them ranting about how they should be equal. I understand and ackowledge the brutal past...african american were brought here as slaves, which is horrible, but now they are at peace. Isn't that enough?

I mean the Whites have privileges here, because they took over the land. If asians took over America back then, would people always hate on yellow privileges? (lol I don't mean that in a racist way at all). It doesn't makes sense to me. Asians and all kinds of new cultures are allowed within now, and are just as powerful as whites and blacks nowadays. I mean look at the president-elect.

I think the more we focus on the differences, the longer they will linger around. Let's concentrate on being equal more, no?

Sorry just ranting I love the multi-cultured world of today! Full of fresh and exotic ideas.

Originally Posted by High Hunter

I think it's weird how other cultures, races, or "colors", never really complain about this kind of stuff. It seems like african americans really want full power. White people forcefully took America from the natives, and you never see them ranting about how they should be equal. I understand and ackowledge the brutal past...african american were brought here as slaves, which is horrible, but now they are at peace. Isn't that enough?

I mean the Whites have privileges here, because they took over the land. If asians took over America back then, would people always hate on yellow privileges? (lol I don't mean that in a racist way at all). It doesn't makes sense to me. Asians and all kinds of new cultures are allowed within now, and are just as powerful as whites and blacks nowadays. I mean look at the president-elect.

Jesus Christ guys.

Where are you two getting off making this about blacks complaining? This is NOT another "Beat a white kid day" thread. This is me extracting views/opinions on what the author wrote in the OP! High Hunter, you're a great guy...but frankly I just don't see how your post was relevant to the thread. By that I mean I'm not asking for explanations regarding why white privilege exist...I learned that in U.S. History back in high school...I'm asking for personal experiences that it may be evident in in your life or your views on WP itself.

Originally Posted by Timothy Paradox

Agreed. Racism isn't going away.. It's just changing into racism against whites.

How do you figure?

Originally Posted by Jeff777

Jesus Christ guys.

Where are you two getting off making this about blacks complaining? This is NOT another "Beat a white kid day" thread! This is me extracting views/opinions on what the author wrote in the OP!

Lol, sorry man, I didn't mean it that way. But you gotta understand where we're coming from... I'm just tired of hearing about this kind of stuff. With Obama being president, these "white privileges" will slowly dissipitate, that's what I think. I personally view blacks as down right equals to me nowadays.

That's all I'm saying

Originally Posted by High Hunter

Lol, sorry man, I didn't mean it that way. But you gotta understand where we're coming from... I'm just tired of hearing about this kind of stuff. With Obama being president, these "white privileges" will slowly dissipitate, that's what I think. I personally view blacks as down right equals to me nowadays.

That's all I'm saying

Digressing from the purpose of the OP a bit...I understand where you're coming from. I also get pissed off sometimes when I hear people of my own race and other minorities saying "Obama's going to fix everything now!". Not to mention play the role of the victim and blame their current mess/problems on other races. What Bill Cosby said on Oprah was damn right. At any rate back on topic

I gave you my views on "white privilege" but you don't want to hear them.
This discussion is pointless.

To sum it up: I think white privilege is good. To some extent. We need variation.