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      How Obama got elected (documentary)

      http://www.howobamagotelected.com/

      Upcoming film or something, not really sure, it is basically the side that was rooting against Obama crying that he won.

      But to be fair, they did scope in on Palin, a lot. ( Couldn't find this at D.V. already, so here it is. )
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      If Palin was our Vice President, people would think our country was literally retarded...

      I mean who would take us seriously??? anybody?

      My parents are better qualified for her position as governor! Heck even the fat ass watching C-Span is much much much more qualified. ..no denying it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by dylanshmai View Post
      If Palin was our Vice President, people would think our country was literally retarded...

      I mean who would take us seriously??? anybody?

      My parents are better qualified for her position as governor! Heck even the fat ass watching C-Span is much much much more qualified. ..no denying it.
      Who was the fat ass watching C-Span?

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      you know, that one fat ass with the TV. haha. I am just doing stereotypes (of myself ironically).

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      Quote Originally Posted by dylanshmai View Post
      you know, that one fat ass with the TV. haha. I am just doing stereotypes (of myself ironically).
      Oh. k...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Sandform View Post
      http://www.howobamagotelected.com/

      Upcoming film or something, not really sure, it is basically the side that was rooting against Obama crying that he won.

      But to be fair, they did scope in on Palin, a lot. ( Couldn't find this at D.V. already, so here it is. )
      I heard about this. It'd be interesting to see what they have to say. Keep us posted Sandform.
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      Quote Originally Posted by dylanshmai View Post
      If Palin was our Vice President, people would think our country was literally retarded...

      I mean who would take us seriously??? anybody?

      My parents are better qualified for her position as governor! Heck even the fat ass watching C-Span is much much much more qualified. ..no denying it.
      Based on what I know about her, she has been a Hell of a good governor of Alaska but has a lot of shortcomings in understanding the world outside of Alaska. She did a lot to stand up to and inhibit corrupt oil company practices, and it seems like the left would appreciate that. I also think she could have taken some time to learn a great deal about foreign affairs and been a good vice-president eventually, but unfortunately with that typical Republican tendency to try to force holy roller ideals on the whole country. But I guess learning foreign policy is not something that needs to be done in office.

      I was for the McCain/Palin ticket only because I think Obama is way too close to socialist, which is out of the question during bad economic times. I am very worried that he is about to charbroil out economy. But Palin and McCain were not people I was all that gung-ho for. I am so tired of never being passionate about a candidate. The options always suck.

      Looking back, I very seriously question whether McCain even wanted to win. He came across like he regretted running and wanted to lose. He did such a half ass job of campaigning. Maybe he was secretly working for the Democrats? I don't put anything past politicians.
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      While there are no significant updates to the website, I have found another interesting site. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/ I'm interested to see what the site will say in four years.

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      Interesting, I agree with UM this time, I didn't vote in the past election for quite a few reasons:

      Mccain certainly wouldn't of got my vote, ever..for too many reasons

      And as for Obama, I didn't vote for him for one main reason, he thinks he can spend our way out of this recession, which will create more problems imo will cause another great depression.

      I don't know what planet democrats come from but you cannot water down and spend over another recession, economies expand and need to also contract, which are recessions, we need to just bite the bullet and tough out the recession with NO more bailouts or stimulus, stimulus will create further problems.

      I think the direction Obama is heading is indeed socialism, but I think McCain would of probably gone down the same route, his big idea during his campaign was to buy up all the bad debt, which is government intervention, hence socialism, but a lesser form then Obama, either way were getting socialism from both major 2 parties.
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      I'm pretty sure you can summerise all UM's argument like this

      X=left
      left is bad
      Therefore, X is bad.

      On Sarah Palin, she did pretty unethical things in office like troopergate.

      Free market Republican philosophy has failed, badly. It's now time for heavily regulated banking system with the Government controlling the banks. The bankers and Republican have messed up badly.

      I'm pretty sure McCain wanted to win. He just couldn't stop change. The anwser to the worlds problem is not a person who was second best too Bush.
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      Quote Originally Posted by wendylove View Post
      Free market Republican philosophy has failed, badly. It's now time for heavily regulated banking system with the Government controlling the banks. The bankers and Republican have messed up badly.

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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      Ditto

      Free market hasn't failed, under bush and even reagan the market wasn't free, the illusion of a free market was there, so that when it failed they could blame the free market, so they can nationalize banks and usher in failed policies of socialism which infact are proven to fail, unlike a true free market, but to my knowledge the markets haven't truly been free in a very long time, maybe before the depression and the Fed we had true free markets, and once the fed took over they blamed the gold standard and hyper-deflation on the free market meanwhile they were purposefully plunging us into a depression to make us believe fiat currency was a better system then a gold standard.
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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
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      about the movie, it might be fun. probably will have some fun stereotypes and exaggerations. You know, typical hollywood stuff
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      I don't see why it wasn't the bankers' faults. They were doing all sorts of dumb shit just to make as much money as they could, and it's resulted in a serious recession. Of course there should have been more regulation.
      Last edited by Xei; 02-08-2009 at 05:15 PM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      I don't see why it wasn't the bankers' faults. They were doing all sorts of dumb shit just to make as much money as they could, and it's resulted in a serious recession. Of course there should have been more regulation.

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      Quote Originally Posted by wendylove View Post
      I'm pretty sure you can summerise all UM's argument like this

      X=left
      left is bad
      Therefore, X is bad.


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      Thanks UM. You'd think posting a troll picture instead of actually responding maturely would get boring after the 100th time or so, but it doesn't!
      Thanks for your input.
      Last edited by Xei; 02-08-2009 at 05:38 PM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      Thanks UM. You'd think posting a troll picture instead of actually responding maturely would get boring after the 100th time or so, but it doesn't!Thanks for your input.
      You can treat trolls like they are legitimate posters, but I won't do it at all times. If you want to take the known troll's argument seriously, be my guest. Of course, you will use any excuse to act like an asshole, but I can tell from your posts here that you are are about as fun as a dirty rag.
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      I think we can all see who the troll is. :l

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      I think we can all see who the troll is. :l
      Indeed, it is obvious if you look at my avatar...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      I think we can all see who the troll is. :l
      How about if you and Wendy stop trolling so the thread topic can resume? Thanks.
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      Convincing.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      Convincing.
      I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you decided to be decent and talk about the thread topic genuinely. What is convincing about how Obama got elected? Does it have anything to do with some of Sarah Palin's extremely right wing views that I said I disagree with or any of the things I said that were unrelated to liberalism and conservatism?
      Last edited by Universal Mind; 02-08-2009 at 06:52 PM.
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