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      Blood thicker than water mentality

      The old saying Blood is thicker than water mentality along with two other examples has really gotten to me lately because it has personally effected me.

      • My brother is a rapist but I will stand by him why? Because he is my blood brother?

      • I am a cop, so regardless of the reckless behavior and abuse of power, I will stand behind my partner.
      Why??

      Can someone explain this mentality to me?
      United we stand devided we fall maybe.

      btw - my brother is not a rapist - just an example

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      Goodness is thicker than blood.

      I would still love a family member if he/she() were a rapist, but I would at least try to have the person committed. I would work really hard to make sure it doesn't happen again.
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      Time to deFOO.

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      Cops who don't report corruption are complete scum. I don't even consider them real cops.
      How do you know you are not dreaming right now?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      Goodness is thicker than blood.

      I would still love a family member if he/she() were a rapist, but I would at least try to have the person committed. I would work really hard to make sure it doesn't happen again.
      Do you feel likewise about other rapists?

      Cops > to protect and serve harrass

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      Cops > to protect and serve harrass

      Well, not all of them, but unfortunately the people who want to do that for a living have something really wrong with their personalities in most cases. It is a chance for rednecks to finally feel some power in the world, and they abuse the Hell out of it.

      I am also really pissed right now because my brother got harassed by cops the other night over nothing. The idiots pulled him over the moment he pulled out of a restaurant parking lot, refused to ever tell him why they were fucking with him and got mad as Hell when he asked, tore his car apart and found nothing and acted pissed that they found nothing, gave him a field sobriety test that he passed, acted pissed that he passed, still tried to get him to beathe into a breathalyzer, and gave him a DUI refusal charge when he would not do it. He got taken to the station and had to pay a $300 bond to get out plus $125 to get his car back. He might lose his license for a while and get his name in the paper. The cops in the safe areas around here are a much bigger problem than criminals are. The cops are bored, so they fuck with every day folks over absolutely nothing. I am really fed up with it.
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      hmmm, on the contrary, I think it's appropriate to disown even a family member if they cross a certain line.

      but then again, I wouldn't know how I'd feel unless someone close to committed a crime as atrocious as rape.
      naturals are what we call people who did all the right things accidentally

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      Quote Originally Posted by AirRick101 View Post
      hmmm, on the contrary, I think it's appropriate to disown even a family member if they cross a certain line.
      Yup, I agree. What is it about my blood that's so special that I would stand by a fuckin rapist? Nothing.

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      Love can be so strong it is unconditional, but I don't think like can. You can love somebody so much you would die for them but still not like the person. I could not possibly like a rapist, but there are people in this world that I love no matter what.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      Cops > to protect and serve harrass

      Well, not all of them, but unfortunately the people who want to do that for a living have something really wrong with their personalities in most cases. It is a chance for rednecks to finally feel some power in the world, and they abuse the Hell out of it.

      I am also really pissed right now because my brother got harassed by cops the other night over nothing. The idiots pulled him over the moment he pulled out of a restaurant parking lot, refused to ever tell him why they were fucking with him and got mad as Hell when he asked, tore his car apart and found nothing and acted pissed that they found nothing, gave him a field sobriety test that he passed, acted pissed that he passed, still tried to get him to beathe into a breathalyzer, and gave him a DUI refusal charge when he would not do it. He got taken to the station and had to pay a $300 bond to get out plus $125 to get his car back. He might lose his license for a while and get his name in the paper. The cops in the safe areas around here are a much bigger problem than criminals are. The cops are bored, so they fuck with every day folks over absolutely nothing. I am really fed up with it.
      Well it is SUPPOSE to be innocent until proven guilty, but when you consider traffic violations you are considered guilty until you prove your innocence - and good luck with that as they call five of their cop buddies to the scene to back them up if need be
      AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGG!!!!!

      Quote Originally Posted by Kichu
      Yup, I agree. What is it about my blood that's so special that I would stand by a fuckin rapist? Nothing.
      Thank you!

      Quote Originally Posted by AirRick101
      but then again, I wouldn't know how I'd feel unless someone close to committed a crime as atrocious as rape.
      That is something to consider. Fortunately I have not had to. Hope I never will of coarse. It would be a hard perspective to draw with out first hand experience.

      Quote Originally Posted by UM
      but there are people in this world that I love no matter what.
      Aawww Thanks!!!
      Last edited by Howie; 01-24-2009 at 01:44 AM. Reason: F8854583 up

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      Blood means nothing. My (former) uncle is a rapist and child molester. My family stuck by him, and I wanted to kill him (not joking). To me my family is dead; or rather, my family is whom I choose it to be: 1 friend in another state, and my cat.

      Don't let dumb luck decide who you support.

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      Well, you have to really think about it. A lot of us probably haven't been in the situation where a family member did something like rape. In any case I am sure I wouldn't be able to stand by anyone if they had done that. Now that I think about it, it also depends on how close you are to this family member..

      I definitely wouldn't be able to continue loving someone though. In fact, I'd hate them. Speaking from experience here.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Never View Post
      Don't let dumb luck decide who you support.
      Exactly.

      Never, that's a crazy story.

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      This whole thing is a disease of society which goes a lot deeper than just standing by people who are close to you in some way who transgress your moral boundaries and commit injustices.

      The problem is that people tend to treat people depending on what they are, not who they are.

      Forget history, origin, race, blood relation, income, social status, how long you've known them, etc.

      It's all about character.

      Besides, there are some things more important than maintaining stability in your social life.
      Last edited by Kushna Mufeed; 01-24-2009 at 03:53 AM.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Kushna Mufeed View Post

      Besides, there are some things more important than maintaining stability in your social life.
      Yeah, to people like us, but not most of the world.

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      It is not so much about blood. It is much more about life long bond. That is some really powerful stuff. If you ever love somebody as much as you love yourself, it transcends everything. But like I said, it does not mean you like them unconditionally.
      How do you know you are not dreaming right now?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      It is not so much about blood. It is much more about life long bond. That is some really powerful stuff. If you ever love somebody as much as you love yourself, it transcends everything. But like I said, it does not mean you like them unconditionally.
      Why would you automatically love someone just because you're stuck with them for a certain period of time? It should be the other way around; your parents decided to be parents, so they should be held to a higher standard.

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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      Why would you automatically love someone just because you're stuck with them for a certain period of time? It should be the other way around; your parents decided to be parents, so they should be held to a higher standard.
      It's not so much about being stuck with somebody, like a cell mate. It is a matter of what kind of bond is created. It can happen with parents, children, siblings, friends, lovers, whatever. Bonds can get so strong that they are unbreakable.
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      If you truly love someone and they do something deplorable, it is hard to just turn on and off a love/hate switch.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Howie View Post
      If you truly love someone and they do something deplorable, it is hard to just turn on and off a love/hate switch.
      That's a weakness of the human psyche. Just because it's hard, that doesn't mean it's morally correct to ignore the bad things that people do because of a "bond".

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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      That's a weakness of the human psyche. Just because it's hard, that doesn't mean it's morally correct to ignore the bad things that people do because of a "bond".
      I'm not saying you are not correct, I agree. But it is what it is -"a weakness"

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      Then the question should be: How does one go about changing the weaknesses of society?

      Quote Originally Posted by Jeff777 View Post
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      Quote Originally Posted by Kushna Mufeed View Post
      Then the question should be: How does one go about changing the weaknesses of society?
      From there you would ask the enormous question - where do you start?

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      You start by not continuing to brainwash your children. I know that in the extremely unlikely event that I have children, I will raise them to be objective free thinkers.

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      Quote Originally Posted by drewmandan View Post
      You start by not continuing to brainwash your children. I know that in the extremely unlikely event that I have children, I will raise them to be objective free thinkers.
      One could consider that is where a lot of the weakness in our psychological development stems from.
      Is it avoidable? - brainwashing
      It's inevitable in some form or another just more commonly known as influence.

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