Thread: What is a Terrorist?

The bailouts only make things worse. The economy is doing bad so what do we do? We spend even more money that we don't have! Here is a question for you. How do you dig yourself out of debt by spending money?

Originally Posted by Alric

The bailouts only make things worse. The economy is doing bad so what do we do? We spend even more money that we don't have! Here is a question for you. How do you dig yourself out of debt by spending money?

Invest in the next generation..?

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Originally Posted by O'nus

Invest in the next generation..?

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I sure hope that was a joke.

Originally Posted by drewmandan

I sure hope that was a joke.

I await your undeniable economic logic.

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Originally Posted by O'nus

I await your undeniable economic logic.

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I await the concrete explanation behind the cereal box rhetoric you just repeated. I can't respond unless you make yourself clear.

Originally Posted by drewmandan

I await the concrete explanation behind the cereal box rhetoric you just repeated. I can't respond unless you make yourself clear.

Economic debate is folly but..

For the sake of brevity; make it easier for more youth to get an education. Increase the tax on higher income brackets to help with this. Leave or decrease corporate tax. Give more leniency towards small business loans. Crack down on insurance companies policies underwriting process.

As for international affairs and trade...

I'm not sure how I feel about that one.

Not something I am adamant about. So, in that respect, I am really curious what your thoughts are - if you are able to share them without being insulting.

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We're talking about the bailout. Explain how a bailout is an investment in tomorrow or whatever you said.

Originally Posted by Alric

The bailouts only make things worse. The economy is doing bad so what do we do? We spend even more money that we don't have! Here is a question for you. How do you dig yourself out of debt by spending money?

I totally agree with you on that. We need to cut spending big time and lower taxes big time. Then people will start buying stuff like crazy, and THAT is what stimulates an economy. Raising taxes leads to the buying of less, which inhibits an economy. I am absolutely terrified of what Obama might be about to do to our economy. I actually wonder if this country will even exist in ten years.

And fuck the Republican party for abandoning real conservatism.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Raising taxes leads to the buying of less, which inhibits an economy.

What of raising the taxes of higher income brackets and moderating the lower?

As I said, even Bill O'Reilly agreed to this. But what about you?

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Originally Posted by O'nus

What of raising the taxes of higher income brackets and moderating the lower?

As I said, even Bill O'Reilly agreed to this. But what about you?

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No. The rich do too much spending for them to be inhibited. Let's lower their taxes a lot and watch the economy get jacked way up.

I am more conservative than Bill O'Reilly on economics, but far more liberal than any Democrat in Congress on social issues. That makes me a misfit and the subject of a great deal of political hate from both major sides. Conservatives think I am a left wing fanatic, and liberals think I am a right wing fanatic. It's hard for me to talk about politics without pissing off 95% of the people who hear me.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

No. The rich do too much spending for them to be inhibited. Let's lower their taxes a lot and watch the economy get jacked way up.

What is it better to spend money on:
- Letting rich spend their investments on God knows where
- Taking that money and offering towards school bursaries

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Originally Posted by O'nus

What is it better to spend money on:
- Letting rich spend their investments on God knows where
- Taking that money and offering towards school bursaries

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Definitely the first one. I want the education system to be completely privatized. That would create competition, which would get the school workers working much harder. As it is, they in too many cases do a half ass job and get away with it. There is a reason our private school system is much better than our public school system. People always talk trash about how sorry our education system is. Well, they can't say it about our private school system. Privatizing the public school system would also do a lot for the economy.

After we wrap up our major activities in Afghanistan and Iraq, which I hope will happen soon (Though I want bases to remain.), I want even military spending to go way down. I want most of our government spending to stop. It is time for the private sector to do pretty much everything. We have way too much government, and it is creating a fire that we keep trying to put out by setting more things on fire. Eventually, the country will be burned down if we don't move in completely the opposite direction.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Definitely the first one. I want the education system to be completely privatized. That would create competition, which would get the school workers working much harder. As it is, they in too many cases do a half ass job and get away with it. There is a reason our private school system is much better than our public school system. People always talk trash about how sorry our education system is. Well, they can't say it about our private school system. Privatizing the public school system would also do a lot for the economy.

Add another thing on the "to buy" list for the lower income class? Do you really want to cut a significant amount of people in the country out of education?

After we wrap up our major activities in Afghanistan and Iraq, which I hope will happen soon (Though I want bases to remain.), I want even military spending to go way down. I want most of our government spending to stop. It is time for the private sector to do pretty much everything. We have way too much government, and it is creating a fire that we keep trying to put out by setting more things on fire. Eventually, the country will be burned down if we don't move in completely the opposite direction.

Agreed.

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Onus, I want to make it very clear that I disagree almost as strongly with Alric as I do with you.

Now, I suggest you read up on the Fractional Reserve lending system and the basis upon which the US government prints currency. Once you understand these things, we can talk about how a bailout is a regressive tax in disguise.