Thread: Obama is sending 17,000 more troops to Afghanistan.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

My point isn't about surprise.



Did you read the first post? Large numbers of people who acted adamantly opposed to U.S. involvement int the Middle East are cool with the fact that Obama is sending thousands of more troops to Afghanistan. Contradiction. Get it?

The fact that many of those people voted for Obama with knowledge that he was going to do that only helps support my point.

i thought most people had a problem with Iraq rather than the whole middle east.

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

i thought most people had a problem with Iraq rather than the whole middle east.

Bin Laden's letter says that the 9/11 attacks were fueled by our presence in the Middle East, including Saudi Arabia, where our presence is consentual. Because of that, a lot of people claim that if we get out of the Middle East, we won't have a terrorism problem. Ron Paul did a lot to influence that public opinion. Also, the stuff about "sovereign nation" and "freedom fighters" and so forth would also apply to Afghanistan.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

Bin Laden's letter says that the 9/11 attacks were fueled by our presence in the Middle East, including Saudi Arabia, where our presence is consentual. Because of that, a lot of people claim that if we get out of the Middle East, we won't have a terrorism problem. Ron Paul did a lot to influence that public opinion. Also, the stuff about "sovereign nation" and "freedom fighters" and so forth would also apply to Afghanistan.

Oh well.

They had a problem with war, with people dying, and for the costs of the war. Switching the location, doesn't do anything to stop any of that.

Well, it seems that SOME supporters of Obama were aware of his policies in regards to war, however you are right that most of the time if I pulled a person off the college campus and asked them...they would either shrug their shoulders when asked why or they would say "dont look at me, I wanted RP" I would be the latter

One of the things that sickens me about the election is that people voted for Obama simply because they knew, or thought he was going to win. A lot of people in my school either voted for or supported (not all are old enough to vote, obviously) Obama, but most likely would have voted for a third-party candidate if they had a chance at winning.

Of course the media shuts the door on third-party candidates or candidates that are different from the status-quo (cough -- Ron Paul -- cough), so the average citizen never hears about them unless they look up the candidate up on their own time.

Unfortunately, my own mother and sister (and father, I think. He voted for McCain-Palin.) are two of those people who voted for the person most likely to win. They didn't even know that there were more than two candidates until I pointed out the roughly 5+ others vying for the presidency.

Anyway, some education on how politics and economics work would help tremendously. I'm no expert on American politics or economics, but I'm certain I know more than the average person. In fact, last night, I was listening to an HBO podcast of Bill Maher's "Real Talk." It had Ron Paul on it, preaching his usual free-market/pro-civil rights/anti-big government talk. I enjoyed that part thoroughly, as expected, but then I stopped listening to the podcast after Maher started his discussion with three others (I remember they were all women, and one was a 10-term congresswoman [either senator or representative, I can't remember]).

This woman had the proverbial balls to say (and I'm not quoting exactly here): "Mr. Paul's beliefs are that of the extreme Austrian School of Economics...blah blah blah...I would not want to live in a world where those beliefs were implented." The foolishness was just too much for me.

All these Keynesians are going to drive us into the ground, and anyone who thinks Obama will fix the economy (i.e. millions of people) deserves a smack on the head by yours truly.

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

This woman had the proverbial balls to say (and I'm not quoting exactly here): "Mr. Paul's beliefs are that of the extreme Austrian School of Economics...blah blah blah...I would not want to live in a world where those beliefs were implented." The foolishness was just too much for me.

All these Keynesians are going to drive us into the ground, and anyone who thinks Obama will fix the economy (i.e. millions of people) deserves a smack on the head by yours truly.

Yeah, I watched to that point as well. Once that stupid bitch started talking, I decided that I will no longer be a viewer of Real Time, because that show clearly just peddles statist bullshit now that a "democrat" is in office.