US Marine Throws Puppy Over Cliff

[WakataDreamer]

ex-Lance Corporal David Motari The footage Asshole. I don't care if he was discharged for it, that's just not right. He commented on the video after the fact, saying that normally they would have shot and killed the puppy, but he was "trying to be creative."

[Black_Eagle]

Old news. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...9014215AAPKhnS It is kinda fucked up, but the explanation written in the link does make sense. I'm not saying it's right, but it is understandable how desensitized and darkened you would become after being shot at. If it truly was starving/sick and there wasn't medicine available, I suppose the humane thing to do would be to kill it the quickest way possible as to prevent prolonged suffering. He should have just shot it.

[kingofclutch]

In my opinion, it was more of him being stupid than being malicious or evil. Many people who watched the video didn't realize that the dog was going to die anyways so they thought the soldier just wanted to kill the dog for no reason. It is still the wrong way to do it though. To me, it was just out of him making a dumb decision or trying to be funny to his friend/s instead of wanting to be mean and kill a puppy.

[slayer]

That's f'ed up... I mean, if the dog was just going to die, then why not leave it alone, or inject it with something to let it go peacefully?

[WakataDreamer]

Old news. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...9014215AAPKhnS It is kinda fucked up, but the explanation written in the link does make sense. I'm not saying it's right, but it is understandable how desensitized and darkened you would become after being shot at. If it truly was starving/sick and there wasn't medicine available, I suppose the humane thing to do would be to kill it the quickest way possible as to prevent prolonged suffering. He should have just shot it. Yes, if it was just going to die from sarvation anyways, slowly and painfully (which I can believe, regarding that it was in the middle of nowhere with no food source) than he was right in killing it. But, as you said, he didn't need to "be creative."

[Black_Eagle]

I'm wondering if it was a lapse in judgement though. Was the dog really stray or had its mother gone out to find food or something? But I don't know much about feral dog behavior.

[Sandform]

That seems like an over the top way to kill something. Obviously the dog had been alive up until he had found it. I wonder how it had survived all that time if it was sick and going to die anyway.

[Patrick]

That's f'ed up... I mean, if the dog was just going to die, then why not leave it alone, or inject it with something to let it go peacefully? Yeah, inject it with the regulation supply of barbituates... Come on. The best they could do was shoot it. He threw it off a cliff - not too much different, it probably died pretty quick.

[Everlong]

What the fuck? That is fucking wrong. Somebody tell me why the fuck that son of a bitch did that. Personally, if I could meet him, I'd push him off a fucking cliff, show him how it fucking feels. Sorry, anger release, that was cruel though.

[Oneironaut Zero]

He threw it off a cliff - not too much different, it probably died pretty quick. Yeah, after a good round of pure, unabated (and completely unnecessary) terror, while being flung through the air like a javelin. What's worst about the video is not that they killed the puppy, and not really all that much about how they killed the puppy - it's how much they enjoyed killing the puppy. It says a lot about them, and I think it's pretty sick. Of course, they are Marines, they are expected to be killing machines, but "getting creative" about (allegedly mercifully) killing a puppy by laughing and saying "aww how cute" before slinging him off a cliff and video taping it to show to their buddies is pretty demented. How much different would the story of Old Yeller be if they punted the dog off the cliff, screaming "later, bitch!!" and laughing their asses off, after she contracted rabies? "Mercy-killing" or not, it's still pretty fuckin sick, if you ask me.

[Goldney]

I can understand why he did it. The dog was certain to die anyway, espescially considering it was a puppy, however, it probably wasn't necessary to throw it off a cliff. To be fair to them, they could have done a lot worse things to it. It wasn't as if they were torturing the puppy, also, from that height the fall would have killed it near instantaneously. Don't get me wrong, I'm not condoning their actions, he definitely should have shot it (the guy himself admits that).

[Marvo]

Shooting it would be a waste of bullets.

[Goldney]

As well as giving away their position.

[Marvo]

Exactly.

[Sandform]

Why was the dog's death certain without a mercy killing? Where did this happen? A google search about this guy leads to some "fast facts" which is just stuff you might not have known. Spoiler for http://www.mahalo.com/Marine_Throws_Puppy: It's possible for small animals to survive falls from any height, because the terminal velocity they reach isn't necessarily fatal The Marine Corps operates a puppy rescue program in Iraq Other such footage includes a clip of US servicemen in Iraq throwing flash grenades at sheep

[Adam]

Didn't look like much of a cliff... I'm sure it might have survived that?

[Sandform]

I don't know whether it would survive the fall or not since it was small, but what I care about is where was his proof that the dog was going to die? Nothing in that video makes me think that puppy was sick or hurt.

[Zhaylin]

That was horrendously unnecessary. That dog didn't look unwell to me. It was definitely not lathargic as it cried the moment it was tossed until it hit the ground. If they were truly trying to put a creature out of its misery, they wouldn't have gotten "creative". It wouldn't have been fun and games. He should have went with "undue stress" or "combat fatigue". THOSE excuses I MIGHT be able to believe. But granting mercy to the pup is not one of them. I don't necessarily believe he should have been discharged, though. Everyone involved should have had manditory psych evaluations and treatment.

[Clairity]

OMG.. that was so unbelievably horrible. And as others have said.. what if the puppy didn't die from the fall? I have tears in my eyes right now. How could anyone find humor in that? .

[Xox]

That's fucking disgusting. group of demented sicko's. god.. I shouldn't have clicked the link..

[torin_93]

I cried inside when I saw that!

[Marvo]

I can't begin to express how pathetic you people are. A dying puppy was thrown from a cliff, to its certain death (don't bullshit me, an animal of such a size wouldn't survive any kind huge drop) and you're all throwing a shitfit and going on about how the marines are sick psychopaths. You might aswell go yell at little Timmy who burns ants with his magnifying glass.

[Zhaylin]

Not all of us are throwing "irrational" fits. Viewing the video, the pup doesn't look bad. Are people to take the word of a man who laughs at throwing puppies to their death- justly or unjustly so? Who's to say they weren't just bored one day. Which is why I would've made them see a shrink. And yes, I yell at children for burning insects alive and pulling off their legs and wings. Nothing should be tortured. If it's going to die, let it die or help it along humanely. I'm rather sensative to the subject though. When I spent the summers with my grandmother, there were a group of kids at the end of the street who used to stick firecrackers etc. inside frogs and up the butts of kittens, throw them into the air and watch them die. Hearing that puppy cry all the way to his death is not cool, no matter what was wrong with it. But I don't stereotype all servicemen as crazy, just that lot.

[Patrick]

You're all right of course. It's sick, and wrong. But I don't think anyone here has been to Iraq or can understand how serving in the army there could change your mind. I think we should give the soldiers the benefit of the doubt here.

[Oneironaut Zero]

I can't begin to express how pathetic you people are. A dying puppy was thrown from a cliff, to its certain death (don't bullshit me, an animal of such a size wouldn't survive any kind huge drop) and you're all throwing a shitfit and going on about how the marines are sick psychopaths. You might aswell go yell at little Timmy who burns ants with his magnifying glass. What amazing Fail. What's pathetic is your trying to justify what they did by using an analogy that shows that you not only don't know the difference between the cognitive states of a dog and an ant, but replaces the two, full-grown offenders with "little Timmy." Please. If you're going to be such a dick in your next post, display a little more logic than that. (Then, for your own benefit, go back and edit your post and take out the part where you're being such a dick.)