Thread: Dream Ontology nitty gritty as experienced

Originally Posted by RedfishBluefish

So why aren't you doing anything about the lizardmen? Do you know how many people earthquakes kill around the world? If you believe in them you have a moral obligation to deal with them.

Oh. They were Licity's straw men, not mine. Supposedly, our transdimensional shape-shifting hidden masters, in modern conspiracy theory folklore? OK.

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"So why aren't you doing anything about the lizardmen? ...If you believe in them you have a moral obligation to deal with them."
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I know that they are possible, so believe that they might be actual.

Why do you assume I am doing nothing? And why assume that "beliving in them" (such a loose phrase) gives me enough knowledge to responsibly and effectively (and I also mean cleanly and quickly, if necessary) deal with their unknown actuality?

Problem was, what could or should I do about them, or anything else that is:

- ultimately possibly real insofar as not demonstrably impossible under the best science:
- utterly unknown to me, perhaps unknowable to me (if not to all relevant systems), in general or particular circumstances;
- possibly good or bad in few, some, many or all cases, at different times, from different perspectives;
- more or less quantum-informatically accessible or exposable to or by me under all more or less relevant conditions (which constantly change, and of which I am also mostly ignorant).

Trust me. I have done more than you can begin to imagine. The last bullet suggests the basic approach.

But really, I can't have a "moral obligation" to do anything stupidly or sloppily. Mere belief that all lizardmen are evil doesn't justify you in killing the good ones too. And I don't just have an obligation to do something about the evil I happen to actively believe actually exists. I have an obligation to do what I best can about everything that is evil, and that might be evil, and with the circumstances creating that evil.

Well? What to do?

First, you need a good ontology: discipline, and supple good logic; extensive factual and theoretical knowledge; based on this, a solid and systematic understanding of how things exist, exchange, combine and relate.

Second, understand that everything in all the universes are connected informatically, through various information-bearing media of various capacities and characteristics. You can use your own mentations, your directed attention, to inform, expose, encompass, catalyse ... information in other systems. You are a channel. A node. Use it with care.

Third, practice the ability to think and act in a way that is both probabalistic (conditional) and actual (final). Every object suggests its opposite. So it is a fundamental problem: how to both act and not act, to address and ignore, to save and destroy. One has to "multiplex", so to speak. And how to do this in real time: to multiplex in the present now in which I "do" it, but in a way that also encompassed all relevant actor time-frames (and excludes the irrelevant or unproductive).

Believe it or not ... I have my methods.

PQ