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      Oh I get it. So its torture when other countries do it, but when we do, its not torture? How does that work again? Because when we drown you, we do it with a smile on our face, so its nice?

      As for it working, it doesn't. All the experts who know about it and stuff says it doesn't. The person will say anything to get out, and so its often very unreliable. They just say what they think you want to hear, not what is always true.

      As for the terrorist leaders they got life saving information from, that's mostly propaganda. They don't tell you about all the stuff they lied about and all the time they wasted following false leads, or that most of the stuff they revealed was outdated and we already knew about. In fact, they wont even share most of the stuff with the public. Though I guess we are just supposed to believe the government, when they tell us they got a ton of stuff from them without any proof of it.

      As for your most extreme, highly unlikely situation that never happens and probably never will. Well why don't just use what you said before? You know the threat of prison, and all the major 'bummers" that are used to control people. Why not use them to get the information from them? All studies have shown that interrogation techniques where you try to understand the person and what their goals are and then twisting that to your need is far superior than torture.

      Why do so many people always jump to torture so quick, when it doesn't even work? To me it sounds like you are acting entirely out of emotion and not logical thought. The idea is to just cause the person you hate the most pain possible until you break them. At first you use a 'questionable' technique like water boarding and say its not really torture. But as you become more irrational and angry you go to the extreme and stab them in the ass with a knife and twist it around while having bugs bite the person on the face.

      It's so easy to to leave your morals behind and act like a savage the more passionate you get on 'punishing' the people you hate so much. There is no question you hate them far beyond what is normal.

      People with clearer heads are needed. Even if you wanted to argue that torture should be allowed in extreme cases, which I do not agree with. I still wouldn't agree that the terrorism we face today is an extreme case.

      There has never been a threat of a terrorist blowing up a nuclear bomb any where on our land. Neither are the bomb threats as serious as you try to make people believe. If there was a 9/11 sized attack every year, for ten years it still wouldn't kill as many people who died in car accidents in just one year. And that was the biggest of the big. Happened once, and nothing else since then. Where is the threat?

      Terrorism is not a major threat to us. We should not be breaking the law to harm them. We should not be sacrificing the moral fiber of our country for such stupid things. And we should never be commenting war crimes on other people. Not ever. What are we the nazi's now? I am sure you would be more than happy to gather up all the 'terrorists' and gas them wouldn't you?

      Be honest with me now. Tell me the truth. If all the terrorist in the world were in one room together, you would kill them all and you would do it in the most painful way possible. Wouldn't you?

      And to answer the question I know will come. No I wouldn't torture them to death. I wouldn't even kill them. I would arrest them.
      Last edited by Alric; 06-09-2009 at 05:27 PM.

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