Thread: "Absolutely torture."

You have to give the guy credit for telling it like it is, now that he has firsthand experience:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036677/...51130#30951130

If you can't see the video, a right-wing morning jock in Chicago had himself waterboarded to prove it was no big deal (and to fill airtime). He lasted all of six seconds and when his partner asked him, "Is it torture?" his response was "Absolutely torture." In the clip with Olberman, he says he's actually drowned and been revived, as well being trapped underwater while kayaking, and waterboarding is worse than drowning. He was having chest pains for two days, in fear for his life.

You'd think this would put the lid on the issue, but Hannity still insists it's not torture, though he's still in no hurry to follow up on his pledge to have it done to himself.

You have to think though, it is torture, but it isn't the worst kind of torture. We could of been shoving needles and bashing hands, but we don't because that is disgusting. We need information to keep us safe against attacks. It has worked. Besides, people at Guantanamo have a cozier jail. If there is a more humane way to get information, I am all for it. People want to put their lives with many others at stake because we are pouring water down a guys nose that wants to kill us?

Originally Posted by hellohihello

If there is a more humane way to get information, I am all for it.

Hanns Scharff

I believe either the History or Discovery channel did an episode on him, although I cannot find it. There's more than just Wikipedia information on him.

Torture is torture and it is wrong no matter what information you get from it.

Originally Posted by hellohihello

You have to think though, it is torture, but it isn't the worst kind of torture. We could of been shoving needles and bashing hands, but we don't because that is disgusting. We need information to keep us safe against attacks. It has worked. Besides, people at Guantanamo have a cozier jail. If there is a more humane way to get information, I am all for it. People want to put their lives with many others at stake because we are pouring water down a guys nose that wants to kill us?

The only reason we waterboard instead of other torture techniques is because there aren't any outward physical effects.

Originally Posted by Invader

Hanns Scharff
I believe either the History or Discovery channel did an episode on him, although I cannot find it. There's more than just Wikipedia information on him.

Fixed the link.

I think one of the questions about such "techniques" is: "How reliable is the information?" When someone is that scared of repeated torture, chances are pretty good they'll say practically anything their captors want to hear (true or not) .

Originally Posted by Invader

I believe either the History or Discovery channel did an episode on him, although I cannot find it.

I saw it once, pretty good show. Don't remember much about it though.

Originally Posted by hellohihello

You have to think though, it is torture, but it isn't the worst kind of torture. We could of been shoving needles and bashing hands, but we don't because that is disgusting. We need information to keep us safe against attacks. It has worked. Besides, people at Guantanamo have a cozier jail. If there is a more humane way to get information, I am all for it. People want to put their lives with many others at stake because we are pouring water down a guys nose that wants to kill us?

Get real. Or die. Preferably, after a long run of torture. Torturing terrorists is like starting war and saying it's for the sake of peace.

Seriously, get real.

that wasn't water boarding... that was a publicity stunt.

with TRUE water boarding you become hypoxic and then have water poured on your face to simulate drowning...

and yes it is an effective way to get someone to tell you something... it's way more effective than the indian burn... or the wet willy.