Thread: Tour Through Reality

The last 3 seconds kind of blew my mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8Aurpr68uE

Holographic universe. What do you think about the last seconds of that video. This has metaphysical implications I don't even want to talk about lol.

Discuss.

That's a really cool video

I'm guessing what you're referring to is the similarity between how the universe and a brain cell look, insinuating that maybe the universe is relational to something the same way a brain cell is.

Should that be the case ... that's cool. Maybe we're actually like a virus on some other dimensional being. I hope it's god that we're plaguing and ruining his shit lol

Pretty footage but the random text at the end about quantum mechanics and fractals jammed into a space of about 2 seconds just made me lol.

I'm with xei. little surprise there when it comes to the question of science vs. psuedoscience though....


It bugs me when people say that "particles respond to conciousness." I'm not even sure what that's supposed to mean. The model as we currently have it is that a particle evolves as a wave function until someone measures it. At that point the wave function collapses and starts evolving again. The thing to keep in mind is that it is only a mathematical model that accepts numbers as input and produces numbers as output. The standard physical interpretation of quantum theory is that there is no physical interpretation of quantum theory other than as I outlined above.

I see no metaphysical interpretation to be taken from the vague resemblance of the distribution of stars in the sky to a braincell.

guess I'm a h8tr

Originally Posted by HaRd_WiReD

Holographic universe. What do you think about the last seconds of that video. This has metaphysical implications I don't even want to talk about lol.

I also don't want to talk about it so instead I'll just wonder out loud on the tangentially related note that I always though it strange that people are so mystified to discover that structured patterns form in an ordered universe. I always though that'd be kind of obvious.

That music suited the video perfectly. Makes you see how beautiful the universe is and how it's structured.

I don't understand why people can't just accept what quantum physics is saying right now, maybe because it goes against their belief system, and challenges everything they were taught about "materialism"?

The double-slit experiment..inescapable conclusions have been made about it. I think we're in a multiverse, and thoughts can jump you into another universe based on what you expect the outcome to be, intentions, and/or in turn what actions you take. This is speculation on my part, I'll admit. But something like this, you CAN'T prove, only experience.

Thoughts "do" things..plain and simple...yes call it magic if you will. This was a revolutionary discovery in science and took one step further combing science, religion, metaphysics, spirituality, and what mystics have saying for thousands of years.

The Mayans knew so long ago that time and space wasn't linear and that it has the capacity to fold in on itself.

I'm stoned like a whore in ancient jurusalam right now. Let's see how I do....

Originally Posted by HaRd_WiReD

I don't understand why people can't just accept what quantum physics is saying right now, maybe because it goes against their belief system, and challenges everything they were taught about "materialism"?

My understanding is that quantum physics tells us that a particle particle can be represented by a wave function that is a function on S=R^ 4 with a metric that allows for a fibration of S as a bundle with fiber F=R^3 over base space T=R, just as is true for spacetime before einstein. R^3 is obviously associated with space and T with time. The function of this wave function is to assign to each tuple (t, s) where t is in T and s is in S the probability of the function being measured at location s at time t. It is a theory based on probability. So the universe is probabalistic. This is funkier than we thought. Pretty cool. Insanely cool actually. It's so cool that I don't see why people need it to be any cooler than that. It probably is though.

Originally Posted by HaRd_WiReD

The double-slit experiment..inescapable conclusions have been made about it.

enlighten me?

Originally Posted by HaRd_WiReD

I personally think it explains multiverse, and how thoughts can jump you into another universe based on what you expect the outcome to be, thoughts "do" things..plain and simple...yes call it magic if you will. This was a revolutionary discovery in science and took one step further combing science, religion, metaphysics, spirituality, and what mystics have saying for thousands of years.

Explain how my basic explanation of the framework of quantum physics explains (or rather, can be explained) my its multiverse formulation? I'll be happy to do it for you, if you need. The double slit experiment really has nothing to do with it anymore then any other particular experiment, though it is pretty funky.

Originally Posted by HaRd_WiReD

The Mayans knew so long ago that time and space wasn't linear and that it has the capacity to fold in on itself.

back that up. I have maaaaaaaaaad respect for "primitive" peoples. I believe, in contradiction to conventional archaeologists, in transoceanic contact between the new world and the old world prior to the vikings. The conventional archeologists will soon be coming around to my side though given the fact that they have recently found bones of a species of chicken from polynesia in south america and dated it to be older than european contact. I digress though. I respect the ancients. Saying that they had the equivelent of general relativity (recall from above that quantum physics works with a fibration of spacetime, this is not possible in general relativity) is preposterous.

Here's the point.

Originally Posted by HaRd_WiReD

I don't understand why people can't just accept what quantum physics is saying right now, maybe because it goes against their belief system, and challenges everything they were taught about "materialism"?

I don't understand why people can't just accept what quantum physics is actually saying right now. Maybe it's because it goes against their belief system and challenges everything that they have been taught about "spiritualism".

As a footnote to that last statement, It's true that quantum physics doesn't challenge spirituality because quantum physics doesn't address it. That "omission" is no doubt challenge enough to those that have a desire for it too.

Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned

I'm stoned like a whore in ancient jurusalam right now. Let's see how I do....

lol

Well whatever man, I really don't want to argue just telling you what I think. I used to be atheist...I'm still atheist as I don't believe in any God or anything. I used to actually think people that meditated, or practiced any type of spirituality was crazy or just plain nuts. I understand why they do it now and some things you just have to experience and I'll leave it at that. Now tase me.

Discussing is not arguing. It's kinda lame to say what you've claimed, and then back down when someone asks about it.