Thread: Terence McKenna and Time-Wave Zero. Prediction of 2012. Open-Minds only.

Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned

It's irrelevant if a fact is insulting or not. It's a fact. When Hard Wired says that the mayans were more advanced than us, it's a fact that he makes himself look like a fool as Xaqaria said. Somebody needs to tell him.

It's like, are you more grateful to the ten people that don't tell you that you have broccoli in your teeth or the one that does?

You can correct people just by pointing out facts and countering arguments. You don't have to add anything about looking like a fool. However, as soon as somebody gets that ball rolling, I am going to say it repeatedly. I just think it's rude to initiate it.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

You can correct people just by pointing out facts and countering arguments. You don't have to add anything about being a fool. However, as soon as somebody gets that ball rolling, I am going to say it repeatedly. I just think it's rude to initiate it.

I guess it's a judgement call. Sometimes, it just gets so ridiculous though and no amount of facts and counter arguments do the trick. I guess telling somebody that they're being a fool might not do anything either at that point but you certainly have the right to. Sometimes an emotional impact does do the trick to persuade though. That's why people without a point are so dependent on emotional arguments instead of rational ones.

Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned

I guess it's a judgement call. Sometimes, it just gets so ridiculous though and no amount of facts and counter arguments do the trick. I guess telling somebody that they're being a fool might not do anything either at that point but you certainly have the right to. Sometimes an emotional impact does do the trick to persuade though. That's why people without a point are so dependent on emotional arguments instead of rational ones.

Insulting them just makes them more hysterical, though. I agree that sometimes you have to go some kind an emotional route to reach somebody. I should add that a lot of the times when somebody just will not demonstrate comprehension of a simple point after it has been explained over and over and over it's because of intellectual dishonesty, and when that gets bad enough it's okay to start ragging him. I do that all the time. I just don't like seeing people with good intentions getting dogged.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

You can correct people just by pointing out facts and countering arguments. You don't have to add anything about looking like a fool. However, as soon as somebody gets that ball rolling, I am going to say it repeatedly. I just think it's rude to initiate it.

That happens when you challenge peoples belief system. People ridiculed the guy that thought the earth was round, just because he had an idea that was different from everyone else's. The reason they want to throw insults at me is because i posted something that challenged their view of the world, which is only natural. It's not just because I was wrong, really it just boils down to an emotional thing, if you see where I'm going. It's understandable. By the way you'll never catch me getting emotional of a computer screen...that's just silly lol.

I wasn't really intending it to be an insult. I guess you could call it misguided/miscommunicated advice. I was basically saying that when you get so excited about something that you've heard that you repeat it without double checking the available information, sometimes you end up looking silly when you miss something. Thats all. At first glance, the mayan skulls look like extra-terrestrials, but there really is no (respected) theory that they are since we know pretty solidly that they bound their children's heads at a young age to deform them into that shape.

All I was trying to say really, is that this is the kind of slip up that makes people disregard the stuff you talk about; because they remember times when you were obviously way off the mark and then just assume that you usually are, whether you actually are or not.

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

I wasn't really intending it to be an insult. I guess you could call it misguided/miscommunicated advice. I was basically saying that when you get so excited about something that you've heard that you repeat it without double checking the available information, sometimes you end up looking silly when you miss something. Thats all. At first glance, the mayan skulls look like extra-terrestrials, but there really is no (respected) theory that they are since we know pretty solidly that they bound their children's heads at a young age to deform them into that shape.

All I was trying to say really, is that this is the kind of slip up that makes people disregard the stuff you talk about; because they remember times when you were obviously way off the mark and then just assume that you usually are, whether you actually are or not.

Point taken. I tried to find out why the skulls were shaped that way, and didn't find anything about head binding or head flattening until this thread. Thanks for clearing that up.