Thread: Video - World's Largest Hatchery - Um, wow.

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

It's more about, what can I do about this?? Know exactly where I'm getting my eggs from, for a start, I guess.

I guess another thing that you can do is try to spread information about animal awareness and that their suffering is as real as ours. People get away with this sort of stuff because the attitude seems to be that the victims are "only" animals.

Some people just really don't care about the suffering of others though.

"A compassionate vegan diet..."

Oh stfu, that isn't going to do anything...

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

But the end of the video killed it. "Adopting a vegan diet," yeah fuck that.

Yes! Honestly, they need to keep that stuff to themselves - bah, if only they knew how much that turns a lot of people away!

Originally Posted by A Roxxor

Yes, well, that's life. If you want to change it then open your own goddamn factory and use a more humane approach. See how that works for you. Honestly, it is of absolutely no consequence. It isn't like they are obliterating an ecosystem or making large areas of land useless; they're killing off the portion of animals that would otherwise bog down the production of the food. Could you imagine the cost of euthanaizing all of those chicks? Thats hundreds of chicks per minute. And I mean come on; they're CHICKENS. There are MILLIONS of them there, and they expect the workers to handle them carefully? Again, start your own hatchery if you're so concerned about proper treatment of BIRDS.

See... I like animals, especially cute fuzzy little things, but... you definitely have a point! And I completely agree with you - just imagine the cost of keeping all those other chicks alive, just so at the end of the day people could have some eggs. But there's really no way to say that without sounding insensitive, even though it's totally true.

Would people have a problem if those thicks were killed humanely, no pain or suffering?

Does this feel right, killing these living creatures that may feel and think as we do, that live. No, it doesn't.

Is it the right thing to do for humanity, which thrives from selfish consumption. Yes, it is.

You or the chicken?

Originally Posted by ClouD

You or the chicken?

That decision doesn't need to involve the senseless torture of other creature.

I don't see how leaving half dead chickens laying around is very sanitary either. They should be checking for ones that fall off far more often. As for grinding up all the baby males, that is pretty gross. Though it might seem even more gross if you found out what they did with all the ground up babies. I am sure they sell the meat to someone. Probably to feed to other animals.

If you think about it, if you saw fish being dropped into a grinder like that, chances are you wouldn't feel quite as sorry for them. They're not cute. Thus you have none of that parental instinct to protect them.

I am having a hard time trying to know what is worse. These hatchery guys, or the person talking in the video, the kind who try and make you feel sorry by stabbing you in the heart, just like those guys telling you to feed a starving kid faggots who steal 99% of the money you give them. Probably half and half. Atleast the male chicks die somewhat fast. I used to be bugged by these videos, but i'm pretty used to seeing and knowing these things now. I'm not going to stop eating what i eat, why should I? shit happens, and there is no way to stop it. For every vegan there are 10 more non vegans, it's a useless battle that can't be won, so just accept it, it's bigger then all of us.

If you think these chicks suffer you have not seen the fur industry, they skin animals ALIVE! that shit is hard to watch, REALLY hard to watch. It's not like we don't do this to humans anyway. I have absolutly no heart for human kind, i lost it a long time ago. If i had the choice to pick my life or the existance of every human in the world (meaning the end of human kind), i'd pick mine easily without regret.

Seriously do the chics even feel pain? seems they are born prematurly.

If you really wanna worry about this, worry about the city you live in, not some place far far away in neverland.

Do they really do that in the fur industry... I mean, is it common? Or do people just say that to scare people farther away from animal products? Well anyway, that's a different issue altogether, but I'm just curious as I know nothing about it. Well... except for one of the Kardashians posing for PETA and then wearing leather at the conference or whatever that followed.

Good point about the fish. Reminds me of self-proclaimed "vegetarians" eating fish. Bunch of nut jobs, imo.

ClouD, hmm, yes. It's like, a lion wouldn't care about how much pain you suffered when he chowed down on you, right? Humans make their own lives very complicated, analyzing all of these things.

Yeah. Still not sure what my final stance is though.

Originally Posted by LucidFlanders

shit happens, and there is no way to stop it... it's a useless battle that can't be won, so just accept it, it's bigger then all of us.

This view applied generally through out all aspects of life is the reason why the world is in such a terrible place.

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

I don't know about "absolutely." How could one claim that a moment of life, of consciousness, no matter how that time period happens to turn out, is worse than not living at all? Who really has the authority to make that decision...? We can't even take a poll and ask the animals if they would have preferred to have never existed.

All you have to do is ask yourself, having existed briefly and excruciatingly could you ever wish to have not existed? And then ask yourself, having not existed at all, could you ever wish to have existed excruciatingly, or even at all? Nothing is better or worse than non-existence for the being in question.

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

Yes! Honestly, they need to keep that stuff to themselves - bah, if only they knew how much that turns a lot of people away!




See... I like animals, especially cute fuzzy little things, but... you definitely have a point! And I completely agree with you - just imagine the cost of keeping all those other chicks alive, just so at the end of the day people could have some eggs. But there's really no way to say that without sounding insensitive, even though it's totally true.

Would people have a problem if those thicks were killed humanely, no pain or suffering?

No i would not because it's a quick painless death, but i guess whatever works best/cheaper is the better option. We are all going to die anyway, they just get born before they are supposed to be born and die before they are supposed to be born. Life is not fair, life is a sack of shit so adapt and move on or cry about it.