Thread: How do you feel about gun control?

I live in the US and believe in the right to bear arms. I have my concealed weapons permit and i carry a hand gun every where i go. I am not a trigger happy person ready to blow off someone's head but in this day and age I will do anything to protect my family and friends. The reason why I am bringing htis up is there is a big debate going on with banning guns in parks here. I personally think it is a dumb idea. The main reason being, those that you have to worry about haveing a gun (thugs) will carry a gun in a park regardless. In a neighboring city, they passed the law banning guns in parks. two days after that law was passed, someone was robbed at gun point. Those that go through the steps of getting a permit and a concealed carry permit are not the ones you have to worry about with a gun.
At the same time, I also believe in strict gun laws that determines who can own a gun and who can't. again i know the gun laws are pointless as well because anyone can get a gun illegaly.
How do you feel about this topic?

How does your god feel about this topic?

I for one, would be more calm if someone shut me, then to live my whole life knowing I shut someone else, even if it was self defense.

So, I'm for banning (in general, I'm not from US), cause criminals will get it anyway, and a country should not direct and encourage (yes encourage, in a sad way that's exactly what it is) good people into choosing this way of living. But that's just me. This kind of topics usually end up with a conversation about taxes.

I believe in thr right to bear arms. Not because I wan't to proect myself against the general public, but because if it becomes necessary I should be able to protect myself against the state, and we collectively should be able to defend oursleves against the state.

Originally Posted by imran_p

I believe in thr right to bear arms. Not because I wan't to proect myself against the general public, but because if it becomes necessary I should be able to protect myself against the state, and we collectively should be able to defend oursleves against the state.

The state is the general public, no?

From Wikipedia.

In casual usage, the terms "country", "nation", and "state" are often used as if they were synonymous; but in a more strict usage they can be distinguished:

• Nation denotes a people who are believed to or deemed to share common customs, origins, and history. However, the adjectives national and international also refer to matters pertaining to what are strictly sovereign states, as in national capital, international law.

• State refers to the set of governing and supportive institutions that have sovereignty over a definite territory and population.

That defintion of state, more or less, is the one I was referring to.

So if Barack Obama comes knocking on your door because he's raising the taxes, then you got your handcannon ready to shoot him? Nice

Wow Imran, we agree on something haha

Luanne, good question, I have prayed alot about this and i am at peace with the fact that if I do have to protect my loved ones or myself, that it would be justified.

I have not researched this but I wonder if the crime rate would go up if criminals knew for a fact that you didn't have a gun.

Like Luanne, I would rather die than kill, and personally feel more confident talking my way through a conflict than prevailing by force of arms. One of my greatest strengths is connecting with people of all different backgrounds and reminding them that we are the same, be it a neurosurgeon, a roofer or a petty criminal. I walk everywhere, use public transportation, and gravitate toward highly diverse 'border zones' that can't make up their mind whether they're going to gentrify or turn ghetto. I never carry defensive weapons because I would rather be mentally prepared to respond to danger with calm compassion than fear or anger. Obviously it's not failproof, but neither is a shoulder holster, and my words can't be driven through my date's skull at high velocity if things go south, nor will they spill some fool's guts on the pavement in front of my little nephew. So far my method has seen me through two would-be muggings unscathed.

On regulation, I'm ambivalent. I do see the logic in handgun bans--guns don't magically appear in criminal hands, but mostly make their way by theft, sale or trade from legal origins. Fewer legal handguns in a city does translate to fewer illegal ones as well. For better or worse, though, citizens of this country have a right to be armed if they wish, and a well armed populace does discourage law enforcement exceeding their authority, along with invasion and military coup.

Really I don't care if people own military hardware including tanks and jets if they can afford them, as long as it's documented, but we need to keep a closer eye on gun shows to make sure they're not serving the black market along with the enthusiasts.

Originally Posted by davej

I live in the US and believe in the right to bear arms. I have my concealed weapons permit and i carry a hand gun every where i go. I am not a trigger happy person ready to blow off someone's head but in this day and age I will do anything to protect my family and friends. The reason why I am bringing htis up is there is a big debate going on with banning guns in parks here. I personally think it is a dumb idea. The main reason being, those that you have to worry about haveing a gun (thugs) will carry a gun in a park regardless. In a neighboring city, they passed the law banning guns in parks. two days after that law was passed, someone was robbed at gun point. Those that go through the steps of getting a permit and a concealed carry permit are not the ones you have to worry about with a gun.
At the same time, I also believe in strict gun laws that determines who can own a gun and who can't. again i know the gun laws are pointless as well because anyone can get a gun illegaly.
How do you feel about this topic?

This.

But not that I know from experience though, we do not have that right in Scotland. But we can however get a licence for a gun that isn't a hand gun. And it cannot be carried around. It is for things like hunting and gun sports.

I agree with the OP that banning wouldn't make a difference where it needs to be counted. IMO it'd just make things worse for the victims.