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      The miniature earth

      If the population of the earth was reduced to one hundred, it would look something like this.

      Really neat video!

      Here is a transcript:

      If we could turn the population of the earth into a small community of 100 people, keeping the same proportions we have today, it would be something like this:

      61 Asians
      12 Europeans
      08 North Americans
      05 South America and the Caribbean
      13 Africans
      01 Oceania

      50 women
      50 men
      47 lives in urban area
      9 are disable

      33 are Christian (Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox, Anglicans and other Christians)
      18 are Muslims
      14 are Hindus
      16 are non-religious
      6 are Buddhists
      13 practice other religions

      43 live without basic sanitation
      18 live without an improved water source

      6 people own 59% of the entire wealth of the community

      13 are hungry or malnourished
      14 can’t read
      only 7 are educated at a secondary level
      only 12 have a computer
      only 3 have an internet connection

      1 adult, aged 15-49, has HIV/AIDS.

      The village spend more than US$1.12 trillion on military expenditures UN
      and only US$ 100 billion on development aid
      If you keep your food in a refrigerator
      And your clothes in a closet
      If you have a roof over your head
      And have a bed to sleep in
      You are richer than 75% of the entire world population.

      If you have a bank account
      You’re one of the 30 wealthiest people in the world.

      18 struggle to live on US$ 1.00 per day or less…
      53 struggle to live on US$ 2.00 per day or less.
      Appreciate what you have
      And do your best for a better world.


      Transcript courtesy of The Miniature Earth blog
      Last edited by Noogah; 11-10-2009 at 03:36 AM.
      John 3:16

      For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

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      The is some fascinating stuff.

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      If you keep your food in a refrigerator
      And your clothes in a closet
      If you have a roof over your head
      And have a bed to sleep in
      You are richer than 75% of the entire world population.
      If you are an American with all of that and a cell phone, X Box, stereo, bag of McDonalds food, and car, you are not really poor. Capitalism works.
      You are dreaming right now.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      If you are an American with all of that and a cell phone, X Box, stereo, bag of McDonalds food, and car, you are not really poor. Capitalism works, at the expense of everyone that does not have these things.
      lololololol

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      Ha ha, but obviously the least wealthy benefit from capitalism. That was my point. Wealth stimulates the world economy.
      You are dreaming right now.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      Ha ha, but obviously the least wealthy benefit from capitalism. That was my point. Wealth stimulates the world economy.
      It does here, certainly, and I found a lot of humour in the way you expressed
      that. Werry clever, UM, werry clever indeed.

      I do however believe that the world's least wealthy actually suffer from
      the way we do things. This may not be the place to discuss it, but our
      incredible rate of consumption of material resources suggests (most
      obviously) that someone is doing the hard labour at the lowest amount of
      pay that our capitalist overlords can manage to find. I think of the indiginous
      peoples of South America that get relocated so that we can have access to
      local lumber or mineral deposits, as an example.

      My gripe with capitalism should not be misunderstood. Capitalism in and of
      itself appears to be working flawlessly, and I agree that it is the way to go.
      It is unfortunate though that we do not have the regulations in place to
      protect those that are being abused as a result of our "must have more,
      always more" mentality. Capitalism needs a responsible hand, so to speak, so
      that it may benefit everyone at the same time. Other than that, I think we're
      just dandy.

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      The concept of capitalism never intended to make everybody richter. By
      'everybody' only the people of the first world were meant - the majority
      always was exploited. Capitalism is just a ressource-oriented imperialism.
      Even Joseph Stiglitz admits that there was never any intention to help
      everybody, moreso that the "poorer countries" were never part of any
      business regulations and they were not to be considered in economical
      choices. There have been and still are plenty of countries that are exploited
      by big corporations to the worst extend. Child Labour, War funding (both
      sides), absolutely insane working conditions - no regard for human life
      whatsoever.

      Also by a lack of seeing a limitation in ressources and factors like ecology
      that have been ignored, capitalism, or our system, how it operates today,
      will have a bad outcome for everybody involved - at least in the longrun.
      (Not only the natural ressources, destruction of oceans and forests, but also
      the flawed monetary/financial system will lead to this, in my opinion).

      This approach has, like so many others before, failed due to greed and thirst
      for power. The longer we lie to ourselves and pretend everything is well, the
      worse it will come down on us in the end.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      Wealth stimulates the world economy.

      How do you figure? The priests of capitalism have convinced you that wealth can be created as easily as printing a few numbers on some nice paper but it doesn't really work like that. No matter how many dollars there are in the world, they still all represent the same amount of real wealth. We live on a finite planet with finite resources, and their is a finite number of pretty shapes we are capable of carving our minerals and fibers into. Everything you have, you had to take from someone else, regardless of whether you gave them a piece of mostly worthless paper or a thousand pieces of mostly worthless paper in exchange.

      Step out of your bubble for just one moment and take a look at what the rest of the world looks like. Your life improves only as someone elses degrades.

      You should do some reading
      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      Do you know how many countries are in the world? 193. 1 of those countries outdoes the other 192 combined in the area of food donations, and you call that a bone?
      I got sick of your food aid argument real quick, so heres to ruining it for you.

      why_u.s._food_aid_benefits_big_business_and_not_st arving_people

      abcnews.us-food-aid-contributing-africas-hunger

      The total budget request for 2010 for Foreign Affairs of USAID, the government body in charge of food aid is $49,497,528. That is 0.000347% our Gross Domestic Product in 2008 ($14.7 trillion), 0.0004125% our current national debt, and 0.0007067% of $700 billion that has been set aside to give to banks that are "too big to fail". Keep in mind, this is USAID's entire requested budget and not the actual value of food they will deliver.

      If we take another country to compare that to, say Belgium, (the last country on the list of largest donors of food aid in 2007)we can see that they donate about $1.4986 million annually in food aid (an average of 1 M€ per year). Thats about 0.00038494$ Their GDP in 2008, so really number 25 on the list of biggest donors is beating number 1 by about 0.00004%. Actually, a lot more than that since I forgot again that I didn't actually find the value of food that the US donates, and could only find the entire budget of the bureacracy we set up to deliver that food. How much do you want to bet that your precious capitalism reduces that amount by more than half before even one dollar is actually spent on food to other countries?


      Quote Originally Posted by The bible, Mark 12:41-44
      Then he sat down opposite the offering box, and watched the crowd putting coins into it. Many rich people were throwing in large amounts. And a poor widow came and put in two small copper coins, worth less than a penny. He called his disciples and said to them, “I tell you the truth, 84 this poor widow has put more into the offering box 85 than all the others. For they all gave out of their wealth. But she, out of her poverty, put in what she had to live on, everything she had.”
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      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
      How do you figure? The priests of capitalism have convinced you that wealth can be created as easily as printing a few numbers on some nice paper
      Nope. You made that up. Wealth comes from trade and job creation.

      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
      No matter how many dollars there are in the world, they still all represent the same amount of real wealth. We live on a finite planet with finite resources, and their is a finite number of pretty shapes we are capable of carving our minerals and fibers into. Everything you have, you had to take from someone else, regardless of whether you gave them a piece of mostly worthless paper or a thousand pieces of mostly worthless paper in exchange.
      Oh, so receiving a paycheck is theft? When you eat a hamburger and fries, somebody else loses a meal? No. What happens is that the burger joint makes money and you eat food. When enough people buy burgers and fries from the burger joint, the burger joint expands and creates more jobs so people can buy more burgers and fries from other burger joints and in some cases start their own businesses.

      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
      Step out of your bubble for just one moment and take a look at what the rest of the world looks like. Your life improves only as someone elses degrades.

      You should do some reading
      Oh, I automatically agree with any opinion you post. Instead of acting like a schmuck, try countering my argument about job creation.

      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
      I got sick of your food aid argument real quick, so heres to ruining it for you.

      why_u.s._food_aid_benefits_big_business_and_not_st arving_people

      abcnews.us-food-aid-contributing-africas-hunger

      The total budget request for 2010 for Foreign Affairs of USAID, the government body in charge of food aid is $49,497,528. That is 0.000347% our Gross Domestic Product in 2008 ($14.7 trillion), 0.0004125% our current national debt, and 0.0007067% of $700 billion that has been set aside to give to banks that are "too big to fail". Keep in mind, this is USAID's entire requested budget and not the actual value of food they will deliver.

      If we take another country to compare that to, say Belgium, (the last country on the list of largest donors of food aid in 2007)we can see that they donate about $1.4986 million annually in food aid (an average of 1 M€ per year). Thats about 0.00038494$ Their GDP in 2008, so really number 25 on the list of biggest donors is beating number 1 by about 0.00004%. Actually, a lot more than that since I forgot again that I didn't actually find the value of food that the US donates, and could only find the entire budget of the bureacracy we set up to deliver that food. How much do you want to bet that your precious capitalism reduces that amount by more than half before even one dollar is actually spent on food to other countries?
      I know. Guess what... It proves the effectiveness of capitalism. If we raised taxes so much that we gave 50% of our GDP to foreign aid, it would cripple the economy and we would have so much less money to give to foreign aid that we would be in a pathetic position. We give such a small portion of our GDP because that is the only way it can be done effectively. Socialism is not a viable method for charity donation, as illustrated by reality. How are Cuba and North Korea coming along in giving foreign aid?
      You are dreaming right now.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Invader View Post
      lololololol
      Haha, when I read that quote I thought what the hell has gotten into him. But unfortunately it was not true
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      If you are an American with all of that and a cell phone, X Box, stereo, bag of McDonalds food, and car, you are not really poor. Capitalism works.
      Sure, if we focus on the richest capitalist economy in the world and ignore its huge debts and also ignore all the poor capitalist countries too.

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      If I see the words "America" and "free market" together in the same sentence in this thread, I might have to do an internet face-smack. Please do not let that happen.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      If you are an American with all of that and a cell phone, X Box, stereo, bag of McDonalds food, and car, you are not really poor. Capitalism works.
      Ha ha, but obviously the least wealthy benefit from capitalism. That was my point. Wealth stimulates the world economy.
      ?????

      You don't seem to be talking about the least wealthy here.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Universal Mind View Post
      The is some fascinating stuff.



      If you are an American with all of that and a cell phone, X Box, stereo, bag of McDonalds food, and car, you are not really poor. Capitalism works.
      It's funny how you often point this out. I will agree with you that a lot of America's so called poor, are not really experiencing absolute poverty, although there still is homeless crackheads with real problems. But the thing is, the West has developed at such a rate at the expense of the rest of the world. the actions of the US around the globe have been instrumental in restricing the economic and miloitary power of developing nations. Support for tyrants and right wing paramilitarys in Lain and South Amrica are prime examples of the US providing support for those willing to curb the American line regarding economics; historically, espeically in and around the Cold War era those leaders trying to nationalize their natural resources and lift their countries out of poverty were removed by CIA intervention and replaced by tyrants supported by the US. The situation is such that the old model of a bourgeoise and a proletariat are changing, the Wetern World is now the bourgeoise and we are faced with an ever growing global proletariat living in the very worst of conditions.
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