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      Quote Originally Posted by Darkmatters View Post
      See, the money s just to support the art... (not just hobby.. art). The art feeds the soul. Coming up with stories, and making stuff and filming it etc takes a lot of time and effort... it fills the hours where most people just watch TV or whatever... and gives a sense of direction and purpose. Live for art, do art to live. Prestige doesn't enter into it.
      Yeah, that's exactly what I was saying (when I was evidently trying to impress the troll ); we live in a material world, almost everything requires money. But there is a difference between buying a new mobile phone that has one extra feature which you simply need to have, and buying a piano for the purpose of playing it.
      Come on! What if Martin Luther King said: "I kinda have a dream... nah, I don't wanna talk about it."

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      Quote Originally Posted by Luanne View Post
      As I wrote that to impress you?! Seriously?
      Quote Originally Posted by Luanne View Post
      Yeah, that's exactly what I was saying (when I was evidently trying to impress the troll );.
      To assume such a thing that would imply I have an interest in you. I assure you, that is not the case. But, to answer your question:

      Why don't you believe Idolfan? What is so hard to believe?
      I don't believe Idolfan, because people who say they don't love money or possessions are just lying to themselves. You may not literally love money like you love a spouse, but you like to have it in order to acquire possessions that make you feel comfortable. If someone came into your house and stole your possessions you would undoubtedly be pissed off and want them back. Luckily, this void would be filled by more money, and more possessions. If he or anyone else who claims such a thing really didn't care about money or possessions they wouldn't go to school or get a job; they wouldn't have any interests or hobbies (because those generally cost money). Money also buys food and I don't see how anyone could not love food it's basically an instinctive love to ensure survival Since food is dependant on money you essentially love the money that gets you food.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Xei View Post
      By the way, Carou, have you ever read about the Unabomber, or the Unabomber manifesto?

      It's an extremely interesting subject. The manifesto's here:

      http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Indust...and_Its_Future

      Some of it's probably very wrong but a large amount is incredibly perceptive. I'd been working on my own human philosphy for some time and when I saw it spelled out so lucidly I was pretty amazed by how similar my thoughts were.

      Search for the paragraphs about 'goals', they're the ones most relevant to this.
      am readan

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