Thread: Strong statement

So i'm studying for my filosophy exam. and i come across this thing that's making me think wow, nice.

I'm not going to explain Hegel's complete theory, that would take an hour. but i wanna come down to this part:

BTW:
See "reason" as system, ratio, logic, i can't find the proper english word.
"The Spirit" as a form of common (self)awareness of the universe.

Naturefilosophers (2500 years ago, ancient greece) discovered that our "reason" (as in Latin : ratio) is the same as the reason of nature, in other words, the reason we humans use, is the same reason that occurs and exists in nature.

Hegel goes and says, there is a common "Spirit/Ghost".
The moment the naturefilosophers made their discovery that our reason is the same as the one found in nature, is the moment this common "spirit/ghost" found existence.

He says : Nature became self-aware at that moment, when naturefilosophers discovered what they discovered. Thus nature became self-aware because something in it and brought forth by it became aware that it's reason was the same that occured in her.


Nice eh ? but ... is it acceptable that this universe/world is one big "thinking" something ? i find it a little harsh.

Originally Posted by LostKiddo

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I refuse to believe you are studying it at anything above playschool.

Unless English isn't your first language in which case, I apologise.



Also, I think you've someeewhat misrepresented what Hegel says there. You said you didn't want to go into exactly what he said because it would take an hour, but if you are starting a discussion thread in which you want to have an informed discussion, I'd highly recommend actually writing the full idea, rather than a summary which can very easily be misinterpreted, and in itself is a slight misrepresentation of what he originally says.

I personally think Hegel is off the mark here, however it's one of the most fascinating and imaginative accounts of human development I've read. Human history is "spirit" manifesting. It's pretty high tier in terms of interesting.

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

Unless English isn't your first language in which case, I apologise.

apologise then

Well, look Hegels chapter is like 25 pages...
If i didn't explain myself good enough then never mind.
I'm sorry.

Originally Posted by LostKiddo

apologise then

Well, look Hegels chapter is like 25 pages...
If i didn't explain myself good enough then never mind.
I'm sorry.

You've made me feel bad. ;_;

I just meant that you don't want people to maybe get the wrong idea of what he's saying if you skim over it too much.
I'm being a nazi now.

I 'm sorrryyy.

For future record it's spelt "philosophy" with a "ph".

I can see how that could be confusing though.

Ay no problemo, all good right ?

And actually, regarding the topic I posted there, it doesn't say much more.
As for the playschool part I study at the 3rd best known University for law-education in Europe, actually i'm studying exactly where and what Europe's president studied, lol

And thanks now I know how to spell philosophy

Originally Posted by LostKiddo

Ay no problemo, all good right ?

And actually, regarding the topic I posted there, it doesn't say much more.
As for the playschool part I study at the 3rd best known University for law-education in Europe, actually i'm studying exactly where and what Europe's president studied, lol

Originally Posted by LostKiddo

>Europe's President

God bless Herman Van Rompuy. ;_;

I don't doubt your knowledge whatsoever, I was just a little thrown off by the slightly odd english.





Ok, so what do you think of Hegel's points?

Individual human consciousness serve as a wider self-realisation of the consciousness of God. What do you mean when you say you find it harsh?

Originally Posted by LostKiddo

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I'd be interested to know Hegel's thoughts on the wisdom of flaky pastry.