Thread: Anarchy

Well, I don't believe I'm over the top at all, and I believe you have backwards logic. Societies weren't created to prevent someone grabbing for control, society, the way it is now, is SURRENDERING common power and giving it to an entity. A government. And what gives them the right to decide what the fuck I do? Granted, I agree with certain basic laws. A lot of shit is ridiculous. I'm sick of being a slave to the goddamn system.

Back when we were neanderthols, and probably weren't self-aware, and probably didn't know a lot about anything beyond natural instinct, the "safety in numbers" bit was valid, and made sense. Now, safety in numbers.. from WHAT? Ourselves. And if we weren't so goddamn simple minded and ego-gripped beings, we wouldn't be threats to ourselves.

I agree that technology probably wouldn't as far along as it were today, that's true. Technology which allows us to have convenient things that pollute the earth tremendously, create medical technology which helps us live longer and continue to feed our disgustingly over-populated species. Granted, I'm not saying all technology is bad. I'm saying a lot of it isn't necessary.

What this all comes down to is money. Money is the root of all evil. The most despicable thing imaginable. Almost all crime could be traced back to something to do with money. We're slaves to it, and it's not even fucking valuable. It's paper. It's digits on a screen. The only reason it's worth anything is because people think it is.

Speesh, I agree with you that ironically, this ranting about wishing humans would just evolve to a better state of mind, comes from an egocentric state of mind. Ironic.

SpecialInterests, you're right. There are a lot of great things about societies. Unfortunately, I think there are a lot more bad things than good. Like the fact that old ass farts who have obsolete, old-fashioned ideas for this country are the ones running the show, because the people who are actually mentally apt enough to do the jobs, are too smart to get involved in politics. We have a corrupt fucking government. Everything revolves around money, and therein lies the biggest factor.

tkdyo, I should rephrase. I don't hate the CONCEPT of society. I just hate what it is. It doesn't have to be centralized around money, which inspires people to do enourmously terribly things, and means horrible struggle for people who were born into unfortunate SOCIAL situations. Classist situations. It would take a semi-apolcalyptic event to change things now, we're so deep in it.

Societies can function without all of this bullshit. When people stop trying to control one another, everything gets balanced. Pssh. I'd really like to believe that's ever going to happen.

Maybe you'll like this?

http://flag.blackened.net/daver/anarchism/

Originally Posted by dajo

Maybe you'll like this?

http://flag.blackened.net/daver/anarchism/

I was expecting this when I saw the word flag and anarchism in the same link.

Well, and what did you discover?

A decent collection of articles. Reading some Chomsky right now. Good site, but needs some Lysander Spooner.

Originally Posted by Rainman

Well, I don't believe I'm over the top at all, and I believe you have backwards logic. Societies weren't created to prevent someone grabbing for control, society, the way it is now, is SURRENDERING common power and giving it to an entity. A government. And what gives them the right to decide what the fuck I do? Granted, I agree with certain basic laws. A lot of shit is ridiculous. I'm sick of being a slave to the goddamn system.

Back when we were neanderthols, and probably weren't self-aware, and probably didn't know a lot about anything beyond natural instinct, the "safety in numbers" bit was valid, and made sense. Now, safety in numbers.. from WHAT? Ourselves. And if we weren't so goddamn simple minded and ego-gripped beings, we wouldn't be threats to ourselves.

I know where you are coming from with this. There are laws I disagree with and think are bs too, but what I was trying to say is that people ARE controlling and ego-gripped, which is why we need laws and society in the first place.

Originally Posted by Rainman

What this all comes down to is money. Money is the root of all evil. The most despicable thing imaginable. Almost all crime could be traced back to something to do with money. We're slaves to it, and it's not even fucking valuable. It's paper. It's digits on a screen. The only reason it's worth anything is because people think it is.

I agree to a point. Money is something very easy to have great greed for, but in the end its not even money itself, its the lust for the power than money brings. This lust for power has been evident through out our history, sadly.

Originally Posted by Rainman

tkdyo, I should rephrase. I don't hate the CONCEPT of society. I just hate what it is. It doesn't have to be centralized around money, which inspires people to do enourmously terribly things, and means horrible struggle for people who were born into unfortunate SOCIAL situations. Classist situations. It would take a semi-apolcalyptic event to change things now, we're so deep in it.

Societies can function without all of this bullshit. When people stop trying to control one another, everything gets balanced. Pssh. I'd really like to believe that's ever going to happen.

ok, this I like better, and yes I would love for society to be able to work in a different manner...people will need to change greatly first though.