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      Joe Stack is an example of how most americans are feeling about the gov, especially the IRS and government corruption. They try to make his letter sound crazy and out of order but i have read it a number of times and he seems to be pretty cognitive if you ask me. the tea party has been taken over by the neo cons and thats pretty obvious as well. WAKE UP PEOPLE ITS COMING. (not a threat from me but just a warning that i come to from the events of recent and the basic FEELING a lot of people have.

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      I think it was only a matter of time before something like this happened and we can probably expect an escalation of these sorts of things in the near future if the country remains on the same track it is on now. What saddens me is that this first visible event of this nature was so misguided. Any real attempt at drastic change from a populist perspective cannot sacrifice innocent lives and expect the cause to gain meaningful traction.

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      The letter didn't read as "crazy" in the sense of delusional, but this guy was clearly wound pretty tight.
      If you have a sense of caring for others, you will manifest a kind of inner strength in spite of your own difficulties and problems. With this strength, your own problems will seem less significant and bothersome to you. By going beyond your own problems and taking care of others, you gain inner strength, self-confidence, courage, and a greater sense of calm.Dalai Lama



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      The domestic terrorists of fifteen years ago are back, and in full force. Now is the time for the FBI to stop focusing on a beheaded al-Quiada and stop letting crazies like this guy fall through the cracks.

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      Quote Originally Posted by mini0991 View Post
      The domestic terrorists of fifteen years ago are back, and in full force. Now is the time for the FBI to stop focusing on a beheaded al-Quiada and stop letting crazies like this guy fall through the cracks.
      Are you serious? you let the tv keep on educating you and these are the types of ideas you have. dont let it convince you that other americans are your enemies...just because people arent happy with the track our country is going down doesnt make them terrorist you FOOL.

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      Quote Originally Posted by mini0991 View Post
      The domestic terrorists of fifteen years ago are back, and in full force. Now is the time for the FBI to stop focusing on a beheaded al-Quiada and stop letting crazies like this guy fall through the cracks.
      It's a pretty scary idea to "stop letting crazies like this guy fall through the cracks" when what you're advocating is the incarceration of people that haven't done anything to deserve it, but are merely deemed by some entity to be likely to do something. As far as I can tell from this story, this guy never gave any signs that he would turn violent at all, by what reason would you have him locked away? Because he disagreed with the current tax system?

      When you start locking people away based on behavioral profiling when no crime has been committed, you end up with a state of fear where everyone is afraid to say anything negative about authority what-so-ever for fear of being locked away as a "high risk individual", and freedom of speech and healthy discussion go down the shitter. It's a bad road to go down, unless you like totalitarian rule and thought police.

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      For anyone who hasn't yet, I urge you to read Joseph Stack's Suicide Manifesto. Once you read it you may realize that this was not the act of an insane extremist, but the desperate last act of a man who had honestly (if he is indeed honest in the letter) exhausted every lawful option he saw available to him in order to enact change. He intelligently tells a life long tale of endless and futile battles with the government and it would do us all good to learn from him so that other violence might be avoided. If we (as a nation) do not learn from this kind of lesson quickly, then we will ensure many more violent and probably bloodier lessons to come.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Xaqaria View Post
      For anyone who hasn't yet, I urge you to read Joseph Stack's Suicide Manifesto. Once you read it you may realize that this was not the act of an insane extremist, but the desperate last act of a man who had honestly (if he is indeed honest in the letter) exhausted every lawful option he saw available to him in order to enact change. He intelligently tells a life long tale of endless and futile battles with the government and it would do us all good to learn from him so that other violence might be avoided. If we (as a nation) do not learn from this kind of lesson quickly, then we will ensure many more violent and probably bloodier lessons to come.
      Well, you might also see an individual with a persecution complex who blames all of his failures on others and probably chose the IRS as a scapegoat when the last straw was probably actually his divorce.
      If you have a sense of caring for others, you will manifest a kind of inner strength in spite of your own difficulties and problems. With this strength, your own problems will seem less significant and bothersome to you. By going beyond your own problems and taking care of others, you gain inner strength, self-confidence, courage, and a greater sense of calm.Dalai Lama



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