Thread: Joe Stack and the 2010 Austin Plane Crash

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Joe's Suicide Note

I saw it written once that the definition of insanity is repeating the same process over and over and expecting the outcome to suddenly be different. I am finally ready to stop this insanity. Well, Mr. Big Brother IRS man, let’s try something different; take my pound of flesh and sleep well.

He was right about many things, but he just took a very wrong approach.

RIP

I live here in Austin. That plane hit a couple miles away from my school. Luckily, by chance alone, he completely failed in his attempt to kill many people. I have a feeling that only negative stigma toward some of the ideas detailed in that letter will come as a result of this man's ragequit. When will people learn that killing lots of innocent people is never the best way to get your point across?

I remember the last time our fair city got national media coverage.

I have been considering moving to Austin for a while because it is like New Orleans... except safe. I was just there for Thanksgiving and the next few days. I walked all over the downtown/university area two days in a row. Despite the insane incident today, I love Austin.

I agree with the guy that we need to look into other ways of taxation, but he should have learned from 9/11 that flying an airplane into a building with people in it is no way to win over the American public. It can only backfire. Now the left is going to call every libertarian a terrorist or terrorist lover every time there is mention of changing the American tax system.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

I have been considering moving to Austin for a while because it is like New Orleans... except safe. I was just there for Thanksgiving and the next few days. I walked all over the downtown/university area two days in a row. Despite the insane incident today, I love Austin.

Hah, really? To think we could have brushed past each other and not even known it...

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

I agree with the guy that we need to look into other ways of taxation, but he should have learned from 9/11 that flying an airplane into a building with people in it is no way to win over the American public. It can only backfire. Now the left is going to call every libertarian a terrorist or terrorist lover every time there is mention of changing the American tax system.

I dunno. He seemed to have some pretty pro-socialist ideals from what I read in that letter.

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

I have been considering moving to Austin for a while because it is like New Orleans... except safe. I was just there for Thanksgiving and the next few days. I walked all over the downtown/university area two days in a row. Despite the insane incident today, I love Austin.

I agree with the guy that we need to look into other ways of taxation, but he should have learned from 9/11 that flying an airplane into a building with people in it is no way to win over the American public. It can only backfire. Now the left is going to call every libertarian a terrorist or terrorist lover every time there is mention of changing the American tax system.

My first instinct, with limited information, was to assume this was an incident of right-wing terrorism to be added to the Holocaust Museum shooter and the Kansas doctor-killer, but the letter makes it pretty clear that this guy was largely in line with the professed agenda of the current administration, but frustrated with the innate tendencies of entrenched bureaucracies and the outsized influence of the corporate elite in this country, as were those of us who protested the policies of the previous administration.

I hope there won't be too great an effort to conflate this man's personal setbacks vis-a-vis the tax codes with Libertarianism, but ultimately I think you're worrying about nothing, because this was a white guy who owned an airplane, and to the American public, that will make all the difference. You should worry more about him being raised up erroneously as a hero of the Tea Party movement.

Originally Posted by Taosaur

Tea Party movement.

You'd be surprised to see how many libertarians hate the Tea Party movement.

Either way, I don't think libertarians have anything to worry about.

I didn't read the letter. I assumed he was a libertarian because he hated the IRS enough to fly an airplane into one of their major buildings. That seemed to have Tea Party written all over it. He's the first socialist I have ever heard of who felt that way.

BLUELINE, why do some libertarians hate the Tea Party movement? I have wondered for a while why Ron Paul won't show up for one and give a speech.

Originally Posted by BLUELINE976

You'd be surprised to see how many libertarians hate the Tea Party movement.

Either way, I don't think libertarians have anything to worry about.

Damn right, to me it seems most tea party fools are brainwashed hijacked neo-conned lemmings.

Half of them love sarah palin the neo-con-nazi.

Libertarian tea party? yea right


To me it seems this guy just flipped, its a shame he didn't crash the thing into a more important building such as the federal reserve.


Stonedape, i think carlin was right....protesting and whining like brats WILL NOT change a freaking thing, its a waste of time because the elites don't give two shits about the world and its inhabitants.

The elites care about money and power..nothing more.

Massive bloodshed of rich elitists is what george carlin was for, and I think he was on the right track.

I mean cmon, the 'system' we are dealing with is responsible for the deaths of MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS of innocent human beings, and then I hear all these fools talk about peaceful protest...grow some balls!

I am not saying go crash planes into buildings or attacking the feds but im saying, FORGET PROTESTS, they are useless.


What im trying to say is that if you're door is busted down one day by government cronies, don't sit there and take it like a bitch, fight back and never surrender.

Don't start the fight either, let those scumbags start the fight, so they are the ones to blame not innocent people who just want to fucking live their lives out in TRUE FREEDOM not a quasi 1984 freedom.

organized chaos my friend....look at our stock market.....blueline, you arent dumb. i wouldnt yell at you saying you are. maybe you are an educated idiot though. ha