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      Dreamlike while awake...?

      Ive been noticing recently, that in real life, Ive been increasingly aware of my surroundings, in many aspects.

      I don't know how crazy I sound trying to explain this, but I can see "in the 4th dimension".

      When I talk a walk outside, sunny day with the wind blowing, birds chirping and flying about, I notice many things that i usually do not notice. If anybody knows what 3d Models look like, like a 3D blueprint of a house on the computer or whatever (auto cad, other graphics and modeling programs ) looks like, thats what I noticed everything. Like input. I would see geometric shapes, with color and sound.

      Its like i can freeze-frame the "frames per second" of my eye sight. Humans have a average of 30 frames per second (FPS) in their vision. When I walk about outside, where there is lots of visual stimulation AS WELL AS auditory and olfactory, it feels like i see life, or the 'moment' pass by in single frames. Where I can pick out certain things and look at them, without focusing the center of my vision on it.

      I know that i sound crazy, and most of you don't have the simplest idea what im talking about. Buts its true.

      What it FEELS like when i experience this, is SO REAL. Sometimes all the senses going at this "4th dimension" is so exhilarating, that you don't believe it. One more than one occasion, I saw and noticed things that I would NEVER have noticed. I was so sure that I was dreaming. It was so clear, and as if the whole picture, was formulated in my head, rather than reality perceived through my eye and transmitted as a signal to my brain.

      Thus leads me to the connection of this post to dreaming:

      This is the same exact way I feel when i remember dreams. I rarely remember a dream entirely as a video like motion. I remember it in "frames" that are so vivid in senses and sensory input, that it is overwhelming.


      Today i was looking in the mirror, and noticed something different. I could focus on my face, and "suspend it" mid-air in my "frame" and concentrate on my face, ignoring all the other things in the mirror's reflection. I noticed that I could manipulate what I was looking at purely by thought. But i was wide awake, definitely not dreaming.

      Does anybody else seem to be able to, AT WILL, choose to look in the '4th dimension' and use the FPS to catch a frame and all its senses together, and think about every piece individually while noting every minute detail?

      I think I confused everybody by this post, including myself. I doubt I got the message across when I, myself, do not entirely understand what I'm trying to say.
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      Wow.

      Strangely enough, I know exactly what you're talking about. Exactly. I've never experienced just that in waking life, but I get the feeling I may have done so in a dream. I've often thought about this kind of thing happening, and sometimes I do get the sense, on an especially strange day, that I'm dreaming. It seems to me, based on experiences, that if your day is going oddly enough to seem like you're dreaming, and you come to half-believe that you're dreaming, the sensation is not that far removed from that of a lucid dream. You feel like you can control things. Sometimes this is combined with a feeling of d&#233;j&#224; vu.

      I made a topic a while back about visualization. On the right day, when I'm still in that dream-like state, when I visualize it genuinely feels as if I'm doing whatever it is. Just as if I was in a dream. Now, I'm not saying I know what it is, or what to call it, but no, you aren't crazy.

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      Quote Originally Posted by moe007 View Post
      This is the same exact way I feel when i remember dreams. I rarely remember a dream entirely as a video like motion. I remember it in "frames" that are so vivid in senses and sensory input, that it is overwhelming.
      Dreams are conceptual thought. You remember them as such and interpret them into sensory information, which is why dream detail literally depends on memory. The more of the dream you remember, the more vivid it will seem because the more of the conceptual thought it consists of you recall, and thus the more sensory details you interpret from it.

      Though, I must say, I have no idea what you mean by this "4th dimension" and so on. Could you try and elaborate more? I can look around and focus my attention on various objects as well, focusing on details greatly, but you seem to be talking of something else.

      What exactly makes such times different from merely focusing on your surroundings? What makes it different from physical vigilance and awareness?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Man of Steel View Post
      Wow.

      Strangely enough, I know exactly what you're talking about. Exactly. I've never experienced just that in waking life, but I get the feeling I may have done so in a dream. I've often thought about this kind of thing happening, and sometimes I do get the sense, on an especially strange day, that I'm dreaming. It seems to me, based on experiences, that if your day is going oddly enough to seem like you're dreaming, and you come to half-believe that you're dreaming, the sensation is not that far removed from that of a lucid dream. You feel like you can control things. Sometimes this is combined with a feeling of déjà vu.

      I made a topic a while back about visualization. On the right day, when I'm still in that dream-like state, when I visualize it genuinely feels as if I'm doing whatever it is. Just as if I was in a dream. Now, I'm not saying I know what it is, or what to call it, but no, you aren't crazy.
      Hmmm Interesting. Thats kind of what Im talking about. And about the déjà vu part, you are absolutely right

      Quote Originally Posted by Merlock View Post
      Dreams are conceptual thought. You remember them as such and interpret them into sensory information, which is why dream detail literally depends on memory. The more of the dream you remember, the more vivid it will seem because the more of the conceptual thought it consists of you recall, and thus the more sensory details you interpret from it.

      Though, I must say, I have no idea what you mean by this "4th dimension" and so on. Could you try and elaborate more? I can look around and focus my attention on various objects as well, focusing on details greatly, but you seem to be talking of something else.

      What exactly makes such times different from merely focusing on your surroundings? What makes it different from physical vigilance and awareness?
      I already know that dreams are remembered by conceptual thought. But .... well, I can't really seem to explain it properly. Because Im confused myself.

      About the 4th dimension, try to find a strong visual, graphics or 3d modeling modeling program (maya, auto cad) and look at a blue print, or a land scape in 3D, and move around. Thats KIND of how i see it, if i want to. I can also sense auras of certain things if i concentrate enough. Or laws of physics and momentum, Ive always driven in away that makes everybody whos driven with me go wow, by making certain turns, or high speed maneuvers. I can sometimes just 'know' how much the car will slide or whatever. Its like a map in my head with the calculations.

      But i can do it with detail as well. When im talking outside, and noticing my surroundings, i can "map" the details and understand the detail more and have greater depth to it.



      Sorry I know that I sound kinda crazy haha but its all good.
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      Well, in essence, there's nothing "crazy" or even unusual about that. You just have a natural ability to be very perceptive, very vigilant. Objects in 3D modelling programs are looked at in 3D just like real objects that we see with our eyes...unless by "like a blueprint" you mean seeing through the objects. Otherwise, it's just a very good level of focus and vigilance.

      Making sharp turns precisely, moving with extreme precision and flawlessly, etc. -- it's all dependent on your focus, your vigilance and reflexes. Nothing out of the average about it.

      Perhaps lucid dreams helped you understand the extent and importance of physical vigilance but I don't see anything that stands out as unusual in your descriptions.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Merlock View Post
      Well, in essence, there's nothing "crazy" or even unusual about that. You just have a natural ability to be very perceptive, very vigilant. Objects in 3D modelling programs are looked at in 3D just like real objects that we see with our eyes...unless by "like a blueprint" you mean seeing through the objects. Otherwise, it's just a very good level of focus and vigilance.

      Making sharp turns precisely, moving with extreme precision and flawlessly, etc. -- it's all dependent on your focus, your vigilance and reflexes. Nothing out of the average about it.

      Perhaps lucid dreams helped you understand the extent and importance of physical vigilance but I don't see anything that stands out as unusual in your descriptions.
      I cant SEE through objects, but I can know whats behind it. Like, its hard to explain, but Lets say i have a 3D map of my house. I know where everything is in the other room just by thinking it. With exact precision. I cant LITERALLY see through the wall, but i can think through it.

      And I guess it is just vigilance, but its weird, because imagine you have a blueprint, consisting of nothing but detail. You have a 'detail blueprint' of your house, or the street or whatever. you know?

      As far as lucid dreaming, ive learned alot from my non-lucid dreams. Ive only had 2 lucid dreams in 2 years. Im just not very good at it :/
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      I got exactly what you are talking about the most intensely today, after doing a manic grin the whole day as it would increase my vibration frequency and my chances of burning people and damaging electronics. Well, that didn't really work, so I must have channeled the energy into hyper vision. It felt so amazing. i was looking at the water, the ripples, the reflection of the tree in the ripples, how it changed as the tram passed by it (this was on my way home from school).

      The funniest part is that nobody noticed my manic grin today. If anything, LESS people noticed me since I usually look really depressed then the retards pick on me and thow bits of food at me. They didn't today. Lol.

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