Rapid Lucid Dreams with Intense Physical Sensations

**liquidSamurai** · 08-07-2010 11:20 PM

Okay, this has been happening to me for many years... randomly. It's my WTF for my demented dream world and my guess is that it may extend further than the dream plane. I'm not sure what brings it on because it used to happen when I was completely exhausted. Sometimes it happens out of the blue.

The first signs of this are a bizarre, acute sensation in the head, like a super-high frequency vibration of pins & needles combined with a low frequency bass tone. Sometimes the sensation is felt in my entire body. This is also accompanied by a sinking feeling in the gut. This is NOT a pleasant sensation 99% of the time. It feels almost like helplessness, as if something is dragging me into some kind of dream state. On rare occasions, it doesn't feel as intense and I know I'm going to slip into a dream, good or bad.

This happens for varying time intervals. 1 second, 4 seconds, etc. and usually over the course of 30 seconds to several minutes it persists.

During this time I may or may not be seeing hypnogogic imagery, and it usually happens soon after I lie down.

Now here's the most disturbing and strange part. After this happens I usually have a rapid procession of lucid dreams. I fall into dream, many times a negative one, or one where I'm being told things about myself or others. Then I pull myself out, and immediately get sucked back into a different lucid dream. These dreams are usually extremely vivid. Picture IMAX quality x10. I can see detail my eyes usually don't see in waking reality and remember almost every detail.

Every time I get pulled into another dream, I feel the same sensation and tone and sinking feeling. Being exhausted when this usually occurs, it is very hard to stop it from happening and can be overbearing and frightening. I've had this happen where several dozen dreams seemed to pass in a few minutes.

This is one of those things that is not pleasant when it happens, but it's so intriguing to me that I want it to happen sometimes so I can try to fully understand it and control it to make the dreams last longer. It is similar to how I used to WILD as a child, but the sensation is so intense it almost feels (what my brain tells me) is like dying. Like my spirit is being forced out of my body.

I would love to know if anyone else has experienced this and if it has a name, if there are ways to make it happen/control it, and any other info that seems relevant as I have no answers.

Thanks

LS

**SillyDreamer** · 08-08-2010 06:47 AM

I think this is the "Mind Awake/Body Asleep" state. In other words, Sleep Paralysis.

**liquidSamurai** · 08-08-2010 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by SillyDreamer

I think this is the "Mind Awake/Body Asleep" state. In other words, Sleep Paralysis.

I would agree except that this happens to me even when I keep moving my body, opening my eyes and trying to fight it. It feels like an unseen force is pulling me in.

**SillyDreamer** · 08-08-2010 02:23 PM

In SP, you can move your face, open your eyes and breath easily. But the movement of the physical body is not possible. The sensations of body movement you felt is the dream body movement. I was having such horrible sensations in the same state prior to my awareness of SP. Take it as an asset. You may find terrifying objects as demons are trying to attack you. Don't panic and run a way from them. The strength you feel in these objects are the strength of fear your mind holds. Convert them to your friends by the power of your imagination. I sometimes convert them to beautiful ladies and play (the games I choose) with them.

Once you felt you are in SP(or, the sensations you mentioned),
1. Try to stay calm and relaxed.
2. Take slow, long, deliberate breaths.
3. Open your mouth and try to separate from your body to the LD world, or
4. Try sinking down to the bed, or
5. Roll out from the physical body.
Try and Leave a feed back. Good Luck!!!!

**liquidSamurai** · 08-08-2010 06:40 PM

Thanks for the info, but I can move my physical body in this state. I can open my eyes, roll over if I want, etc., I've even got out of bed or off the couch. I have to "break" the paralysis so to speak to move like this, but I'm instantly back in sleep paralysis with those intense feelings immediately after I stop moving. That is why I posed this question because it defies what everyone says about sleep paralysis taking some time to set in. It is not my dream body moving, I'm forcing my physical body to move to fight the terribly intense feelings.

In this bizarre state I also have trouble breathing, like I can't control my breath. Many times I have gasped when in this state because the muscles used for breathing I couldn't control. This is not like regular WILD when thought and breathing are easy to do. My mind is awake, but nothing else feels like I can control it unless I struggle, similar to how you may fight to escape a regular nightmare to wake yourself up.

Normally, this doesn't happen. I tried to WILD last night for the hell of it, and while I didn't WILD, I came very close. Sleep paralysis set in in less than 10 minutes, and then became more intense, I had HI after about 4-5 minutes which lasted a while, then vanished, and then came back twice, more intensely but briefly. I kept sinking lower and lower into paralysis where I stopped feeling my limbs and had seevral sinking feelings, and I started to almost see an ethereal sky of stars in the HI. Unfortunately my daughter had climbed in my bed and started kicking me and it made everything stop

This post is about the random, out of the ordinary, intense SP or whatever it is. I will let you know if it happens again. I find it happens with extreme exhaustion, such as working 2 days straight with no sleep, or after a string of days with very little sleep, or at times in my life when I am extremely overstressed coupled with exhaustion. Occasionally out of nowhere it just happens though. Sometimes it is accompanied by HA where the voices are swelling around me

LS.

**SillyDreamer** · 08-09-2010 08:13 AM

What I have described is the usual SP situation. If you are feeling something abnormal from this, it is better to consult a doctor. Some sort of chemical imbalance (iron, potassium, etc) in our body may lead to this.

Originally Posted by liquidSamurai

Thanks for the info

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