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      Quote Originally Posted by Puffin View Post
      Philosopher, trust me when I say that you don't fit words together the way people do nowadays. It's as if you're speaking future english whilst we're all still speaking plain english, and because of this, it's very difficult to understand. Words you use have some other meaning that it can take hours to decipher.

      Sorry to keep this OT.
      I am not the one who took it off topic by not addressing the topic but was attacked what someone else imagined I said.

      so, take your own advice first. And, the course of events was prior to grammatical interpretation, are you claiming you are ignorant of that also?

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      In regards to Philosopher's post...
      I don't see what's not to get. The light was simply a representation of meaning for the conceptual mind to decipher. I think it's evident that the subconscious relates to things in a much different way than the conscious mind, which uses dualism and symbols to put meaning on the world. So when seeking meaning from a dream, which has more subconscious roots, there will be attempts to project meaning in the form of a symbol that you can translate. ie: a different language.

      Makes sense to me. The only fault I see in this thread is the attack toward somebody who was trying to help...
      Last edited by Feick; 08-20-2010 at 05:42 PM.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Feick View Post
      In regards to Philosopher's post...
      I don't see what's not to get. The light was simply a representation of meaning for the conceptual mind to decipher. I think it's evident that the subconscious relates to things in a much different way than the conscious mind, which uses dualism and symbols to put meaning on the world. So when seeking meaning from a dream, which has more subconscious roots, there will be attempts to project meaning in the form of a symbol that you can translate. ie: a different language.

      Makes sense to me. The only fault I see in this thread is the attack toward somebody who was trying to help...
      Second difference is, since it has been made clear to me that it is a language--it is the rudiments of telepathy. Something demonstrated, but not understood.

      However, my work is not aimed at it as a language, it is more advanced than we use today, my work is preparing for it, by teaching the correct principles to what we have already. We use daily language like savages, there is a brave new world ahead. But before I can teach, I must learn all I can and not be a complete fuck up. As far as it being a language, I have been prepared to demonstrate that by what has been given in history--and trust me, there will be a riot. Many people believe that if you quote from a historical text, you are validating man's mythology. You cannot shake them from it, like a very small dog ridding your leg. It has always been about the development of the mind of man--its function and purpose.

      Now I will put what I just said in a metaphor, which will piss someone off. "I am come to make straight the way of the Lord." My name really is John. Most can only use words by rote, others by definition.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Feick View Post
      In regards to Philosopher's post...
      I don't see what's not to get. The light was simply a representation of meaning for the conceptual mind to decipher. I think it's evident that the subconscious relates to things in a much different way than the conscious mind, which uses dualism and symbols to put meaning on the world. So when seeking meaning from a dream, which has more subconscious roots, there will be attempts to project meaning in the form of a symbol that you can translate. ie: a different language.

      Makes sense to me. The only fault I see in this thread is the attack toward somebody who was trying to help...
      I'm not attacking him I'm asking him (kindly) if he will move his discussion over to the Beyond Dreaming section.
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