Thread: The full cycle

Thats very interesting, if you believe in reincarnation. but an interesting observation nonetheless

I don't believe in reincarnation. It just fit well.

moe

Lol, *thinks about the irony*

That throws a different light on the situation

I know its 'typical' to believe in something after death...say a heaven/hell.

but reincarnation, its my personal opinion that it doesnt exist, i just believe that were here at this, perhaps stage in life, and we move on after death.
were not here by accident, and accident didnt cause my lungs to this exact second...expand...contract...

I lean against the wind,
Pretend that I am weightless,
And in this moment I am happy…[/b]

it could, according to natural selection

Well I guess we can all agree that there's a here and here is not there nor is there not here, but both are niether here or there but both are everywhere.. Yeah how ironic is that huh?

Just an observation of life:
everything goes in circles (or cycles)
but i dont think that death can be re-played a million times over, like the "RETURNAL RETURN" theory proposed by Milan Kundera. (if you have read some of his stuff, namely, 'The Unbearable Lightness of Being' -great book)

I lay my head onto the sand…
The sky resembles a back-lit canopy with holes punched in it
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Here's another stab at this:

We dream. The rules of life in dream world are pretty loose. We control pretty much everything. We judge.

We wake. The rules are tougher. We control somethings. Somethings control us. We Judge and are judged.

We die. The rules are even tougher. We have no control over anything. We are controlled. We are judged.

moe

moe- your just a box full of GREAT questions. seriously, some of the stuff you say is really thought provoking! its awsome.

[quote]You saw me lost and treading water, I looked pathetic,
I looked as helpless as a stinger without a bee.
[/quote

Thank you.

I do find that people here are pretty creative. It seems that you take your imagination beyond your dreams.

I agree, what you say really makes a person think.

I can't decide what to believe, but my top two are that when we die, we're dead, and nothing happens. Or, when we die, we live in some astral plane with every else is really dead, but there is no heaven/hell, just one place that everyone goes when they die.

Wanna know what I believe in? I believe in only one thing. Many things are possible (or all). I will accept whatever the end is. I will try to be the best person I can be. I mean how can you believe in anything when you do not know it exists? I am not saying God does not exist. Something does, but I don't know what it is.

It is sort of how different religions are. If you don't believe in what we believe in then you go to hell. Well, that must mean something like 95% of everyone is going to hell. So how can they choose a religion. They choose one believing everyone else is wrong. And what do they base this on? It is what thier mom and dad told them. It goes on like that too. Someone told someone else that "this" is right and "that" is wrong so they believe that. Wouldn't it just be best to be a "good" person. (don't lie, be mean to others, etc etc) Wouldn't that person still go to heaven if it existed? They are not saying that God does not exist or he is bad or whatever. They are just being open minded to what is right. And that is what they want.

I think thats the part that gets everyone as far as trying to believe in the unseen because we are show me the proof driven. To me Faith is one of the most important things a person can have inside him/her.

I have faith in what is right and what is true. I do no "know" what that is nor does anyone else. If you believe in one thing like the Christians believe in you only believe in that. Anything else goes against what you believe in. Do you see what I mean? Is it possible to just connect your brain to mine for a few minutes?

Originally posted by ShadowNightWing
I think thats the part that gets everyone as far as trying to believe in the unseen because we are show me the proof driven. To me Faith is one of the most important things a person can have inside him/her.

YES!

I need a map of your head, translated into English so I can learn to not make you frown.
You’d feel better if you’d vent, put your frustrations into four letter words and let them out on mine, the most weathered ears in town.
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I think its weak to want everyone to be right at the same time. I mean, what you're also used to bother me, but then I realised:

God is Merciful and the Best Judge and He knows what's in every man's heart. Therefore, no one will ever be judged unfairly and without mercy for the things they have done in this life. You get what you give.

Originally posted by Rtex
Lol, *thinks about the irony*

That throws a different light on the situation

Im Watching YOU

"Fair" according to whose definition?

If we were to get what's TRULY fair (what we deserve), we would all be dammed ... And if that sounds harsh, yep, it IS.

Originally posted by evangel
\"Fair\" according to whose definition?

If we were to get what's TRULY fair (what we deserve), we would all be dammed ... And if that sounds harsh, yep, it IS.

Actually, what you say is true. I believe that is why you need God's mercy. Even if you were the most just of all people, you still need his mercy. The definition of fair is that everything is weighted in good and bad justly.

you get what you give, and you dont always get what you ask for.

Today, everything was fine. Until roundabout, quarter to nine, I suddenly found myself in a bind. Was it something I said? Something I read an manifested that’s getting you down.[/b]

Originally posted by phantasy

Even if you were the most just of all people, you still need his mercy. The definition of fair is that everything is weighted in good and bad justly.

I think that sin so deeply affects us that we cannot have a right view of what is "good" or "just" in any eternal sense unless God reveals it to us. So many think, "well if I'm a good person, it'll all be good in the end..." The problem is what we think is good is still utterly unacceptable -thus our "bad" ALWAYS outweighs our "good." (we cannot earn favor or righteousness -it has to be imputed or given to us. Even then it is not truly our own, but God's alone).

but thats where mercy plays into the story. If our bad and good were measured on a scale, i think, most of us would have a pile of bad stuff, and therefore overweighing the good stuff. Mercy is a way of reseting the scale to zero, per say.

The problem is what we think is good is still utterly unacceptable -thus our \"bad\" ALWAYS outweighs our \"good.\" (we cannot earn favor or righteousness -it has to be imputed or given to us. Even then it is not truly our own, but God's alone).[/b]

Give me an example or be more clear, I didn't understand what you meant here. Well, if you have a religion with its own book such as the Bible, Torah or Quran, that's supposed to be where you find the definitions of what you consider good and bad.

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Whoever works righteousness benefits his own soul; whoever works evil, it is against his own soul: nor is thy Lord ever unjust (in the least) to His Servants.

-Qur'an, Fussilat, Surah 41:46