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      dejavu?? (sp?)

      sorry.. don't know how to spell dejavu first of all..

      anyway.. I feel like I have them all the time in my dreams..

      like I'll be in my dream and I'll be in some weird gas station/food court type thing and I'll know I've seen this before.. like many many times before in other dreams..
      Same thing happens with this theme park that I always end up at.. As well as this Mtn. meant for skiiing and snow boarding..

      this isn't really about lucid dreaming necessarily.. but I was just wondering if anyone else has this happen?
      And I find it kind of funny
      I find it kind of sad
      The Dreams in which I'm dying
      are the best I've ever had
      I find it hard to tell you
      And I find it hard to take
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      Dejavu...(dun' worry i can't spell either!) i totally learned what this means.....
      GLINCH IN THE MATRIX!!!!!!!!
      c'mon!!! didn't u watch that movie!!!!!!


      Lol...anyways, dun' worry it isn't 2 unusual. I get that all the time in my dreams 2. It's mostly because u have been so concentrated or stressed on 1 thing that you often keep replaying the situation in ur dream.

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      heh...

      some times when i have deja vu in Real life, i can trace it back to dreams when It felt like i had deja vu in my dreams... pretty odd i know..

      so maybe your predicting the future!
      Long you live and high you fly
      And smiles you'll give and tears you'll cry
      And all you touch and all you see
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      I get deja vu all the time in real life, and I allways think of a dream when I get it. Sometimes the dream happened years ago, sometimes days ago.

      I still swear that the road to my new house was the setting of a dream I had ages ago, before I had ever been there. EVERY time I drive down it.

      Freaky weird.

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      Here is a thought on Deja-vu i've had for a while. what if Deja-vu is nothing but the conscious mind and subconsious mind taking the same information and interpretate it its onw way. and since the brain is using both psyches it makes 2 separate thughts but they render into 1 making a "false memory". so for example you walk into a house that you "never" been to and you say oh i just got Deja-vu...but lets say there was a smell that reminded you of something and starts to go through your memory bank, BUT your eyes are receiving new information of a place you never been. and when the 2 thoughts are computing in your brain, it makes a false memory in order to accept your current reality.

      I used smell as an example but as i have it understood anything can trigger your subconsious into accessing hidden thoughts. I read in some magazine that the Brain can hold up to 7 seperate thougts in the consious mind. what abotu teh subconsious? and i guess thats whwre I base my Idea from. like i said its just a personal theory. but if anyone has anythign i mihgt have overlooked please let me know
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      as far as I know, Deja Vu's come from a part of the brain called the hippocampus located in the temporal lobe. This is part of the declarative memory system. While it does not hold the all memories, it stores very recent ones and it recognizes that older ones exists. As far as the association of dreams and the hippocampus I am not sure, since it is offline when you sleep. Anyway, one theory is that in dreams the path for recall does not go through the hippocampus. Instead you pull memories from other different part of the brain. Sometimes we go to the neo cortex where abstract semantic knowledge is stored. These types of memories would be interpretive in nature.

      To use your example, lets assume you really went to a gas station. Many types of memories would be generated by this event. One of the memories that may hit the neo cortex would be that you knew it was a gas station because you smelled gas.

      Anyway, all that to say your dreams are based on your collection of memories of many different types. When we sleep we are sorting out those memories and putting them in there place. Occasionally we pull back different types of memories and get them mixed up. Deja vu's in sleep are puported to be just one of our several types of memory getting linked with a different, unassociated memory or imagined image in our heads.

      BTW - I get them too! The real question is why do you get them during the day? (its beleived to be a small seizures in that region that causes the glitch) Scary huh?

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      Glitch....?!?! like teh matrix?!?! DUDE YOU JUST BLEW MY MIND!!
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      Originally posted by recombinant
      as far as I know, Deja Vu's come from a part of the brain called the hippocampus located in the temporal lobe. This is part of the declarative memory system. While it does not hold the all memories, it stores very recent ones and it recognizes that older ones exists. As far as the association of dreams and the hippocampus I am not sure, since it is offline when you sleep. Anyway, one theory is that in dreams the path for recall does not go through the hippocampus. Instead you pull memories from other different part of the brain. Sometimes we go to the neo cortex where abstract semantic knowledge is stored. These types of memories would be interpretive in nature.

      To use your example, lets assume you really went to a gas station. Many types of memories would be generated by this event. One of the memories that may hit the neo cortex would be that you knew it was a gas station because you smelled gas.

      Anyway, all that to say your dreams are based on your collection of memories of many different types. When we sleep we are sorting out those memories and putting them in there place. Occasionally we pull back different types of memories and get them mixed up. Deja vu's in sleep are puported to be just one of our several types of memory getting linked with a different, unassociated memory or imagined image in our heads.

      BTW - I get them too! The real question is why do you get them during the day? (its beleived to be a small seizures in that region that causes the glitch) Scary huh?
      -wow thanks for that information.. Obviously I've got a lot to learn..

      hmm.. I've only had like one or two dejavus in real life..

      glitch huh? that's insane!!
      And I find it kind of funny
      I find it kind of sad
      The Dreams in which I'm dying
      are the best I've ever had
      I find it hard to tell you
      And I find it hard to take
      When people run in circles it's a very very
      Mad World

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      i get it all the time...especially spooky when i think i've had a conversation before, and i can carry on the conversation exactly as i 'remember' it...
      I do get it in dreams, and have used it for reality checks to discover that i am dreaming.
      'all of the moments that already passed/
      try to go back and make them last.'

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      ~*A_P*~

      I have had deja vu several times in dreams as far as being in the same place that I've never been to before in real life. Like when I was really little, there was this FANTASTIC orange playground. The thing was three or four stories tall! I've been there so often I could practically map the place, even though I haven't been there in years. There's also a certain forest that I often go through with different people on different occasions. Same forest. Same trail complex. Again, I could practically map the place.

      However, as far as true deja vu goes, I have had only two such instances (within LDs). One was a dream in second grade where I got up in the middle of the night, went back to sleep, and had the same dream over again but with a different ending based on what I had learned during the first. Another was a recurrent nightmare I had over the years where I went into this one particular cave complex (at first because I wanted to, but later to save DCs of my family, since I have a strong Ethical Code for my LDs) and am either stifled in the darkness or destroyed by an evil sorceror!

      I have often thought that recurring dreams are there for a reason. Perhaps there is a lesson to be learned from them or (especially in the case of nightmares) a fear to be gotten over. I have even questioned whether these might not be important "floating memories" -- from a past life or somebody else's life. But that is more or less a reflection of my own belief system.

      ~*Aethereal_Pellucidity*~
      It is important that we do not judge these few unbiased moments of our lives, but take them as they are. There is no nightmare for the lucid dreamer, nor no shadows on the mind.

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      Thumbs up dèjá vu

      I read this book about past lives and regression. There was an idea that dèjá vus could be flashes of memory from past lives. Interesting idea...

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      I get dejavu pretty often.

      Whats really weird though, is twice in my life, I've gotten it so strong, I knew what was going to happen next.
      I was sitting in class one day back in highschool, talking to a group of people, and dejavu hit like a ton of bricks. I thought to myself... "that guys going to laugh and slap his forhead". 3 seconds later, the kid laughed and slapped his forhead.

      another time I was with freinds and got hit with dejavu. I told them a cop car was going to pull around the corner in a second. again, few seconds later, a police car rounded the corner.

      could have just been uncanny coincidences, but it freaked me out at the time.
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