Dream-Sunlight causing lucid dream to fade...

**Empedocles** · 04-19-2011 01:58 AM

After about 4 hours of sleep, I get up, and go back to bed a couple of minutes later. I get sleep paralysis, then get a little uncomfortable and will myself out of it by trying to move my head as hard as possible. That always works for me. After that, I get it again, then I get the illusion that my head starts shaking and banging against the pillow. I also feel slight pressure in my entire body. I keep saying to myself that I will have a lucid dream. The next thing I know, I am in a dream, laying in my bed in the same position I fell asleep in.

Everything looks the same. I get up, and start walking a bit around the room, reminding myself outloud that it is a dream. I start paying attention to the details, particularly the light switch on the wall. A few seconds later the environment begins to fade. I try to relax and rub my hands against one another, and the dream stabilizes a bit. I walk into the living room, and the door is open, I see the sunlight outside, and it is also shining onto the floor. However, looking at the sunlight destabilizes the dream and it begins to fade even more. I go back into the bedroom, which is darker, and the clarity improves.

I focus, remind myself once more that I am in a dream, and then walk again into the living room. The sun once again causes the dream to begin breaking up so to speak, and losing clarity very much. Now I decide I will start spinning in order to stabilize it. So, in the living room, I spread my hands out, and start to spin and spin, expecting and hoping that the environment will stabilize. However, it continues to fade, and eventually... I don't know what happened after that. I did not wake up. It seems there was some kind of pause after that, if that's possible. Some kind of non-dream period? After that I only vaguely remember a non-Lucid dream.

Thoughts? Why did the sunlight/brightness in my dream negatively affect the clarity, and caused it to become unstable?

I also remember in my older WILDs several years ago, that sunlight caused the dream to begin to fade. I wonder why that is. In DILDs it doesn't seem to be so.

Can anyone also tell me what exactly to think or not think about when spinning?

Jakob

**wyoung348** · 04-20-2011 07:59 PM

Maybe when you learned that light has a negative impact on dreams, that association followed you into the dream?

Or maybe you just don't like sunlight?

**Empedocles** · 04-21-2011 02:44 AM

Originally Posted by wyoung348

Maybe when you learned that light has a negative impact on dreams, that association followed you into the dream?

Or maybe you just don't like sunlight?

Lol, I do like sunlight. I thought more about this, and came up with this theory:

Since sunlight causing my dreams to fade only affects me in my WBTB WILDs, I think it is because the sleep is not so "deep" as in the previous stages. I think the brain has to work hard in order to recreate real-looking sunlight in dreams, the effect of the brightness of it, and the clarity. Therefore it causes the dream to become unstable.

Anyway, this isn't that important. I just wanted to see if other members had similar experiences.

Jakob

**wyoung348** · 04-21-2011 04:17 AM

That makes sense. Like when trying to turn on a ceiling light.

**Rybread34** · 04-22-2011 02:16 AM

Sometimes the sun is shining in my eyes in the dream so i'm squinting and then when I hope my eyes I'm awake.

**dark_grimmjow** · 04-22-2011 07:22 PM

I've had the same thing happen to me as well; only twice though. Both times were during a WILD ld. The first time i saw the sunlight coming through the curtains in my room. It was so bright feeling that it made me squint my eyes. Within a few seconds, the dream collapsed. When i woke up, it was still dark outside. The second time it happened, it wasn't sunlight. I looked at my digital alarm clock to do a reality check by looking at it, looking away and then looking back to see if anything had changed. The only issue was that the alarm clock was so bright, that it had the same effect that the sunlight had. The dream collapsed and i woke up. One thing i noticed was this only happened at the very beginning of the WILD dream. It seemed that if i could stay in the dream long enough to stabilize it; that the light would not have the same effect.

**Empedocles** · 04-22-2011 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by dark_grimmjow

I've had the same thing happen to me as well; only twice though. Both times were during a WILD ld. The first time i saw the sunlight coming through the curtains in my room. It was so bright feeling that it made me squint my eyes. Within a few seconds, the dream collapsed. When i woke up, it was still dark outside. The second time it happened, it wasn't sunlight. I looked at my digital alarm clock to do a reality check by looking at it, looking away and then looking back to see if anything had changed. The only issue was that the alarm clock was so bright, that it had the same effect that the sunlight had. The dream collapsed and i woke up. One thing i noticed was this only happened at the very beginning of the WILD dream. It seemed that if i could stay in the dream long enough to stabilize it; that the light would not have the same effect.

Yes, that is the same thing as with me. It is only in WILDs, but unstable WILDs. The mind has to work hard to create realistic looking light. The brightness is the factor here, because the brighter a room is, the more your mind has to work to make the surroundings detailed, because everything is more visible.

In this dream I talked about, as soon as I went back into the darker room, the dream stabilized. With DILDs I have never had this experience, and also not with WILDs once they are really stabilized.

**wyoung348** · 04-22-2011 07:32 PM

Actually, since your mind is more logical during a WILD, it would make sense that light disrupts the dream.

Logically, what does sunlight do? It wakes you up.
What do alarm clocks do? They wake you up.