WILDs

**Rtex** · 09-15-2003 07:02 AM

I have found out about another way to induce lucid dreaming.

WILD=Wake Initiated Lucid Dreams

Anyone have any info on it?
All I know is that you "Fall asleep consiously" and therefore enter lucid dreams directly. So theoreticly if you learned this you could induce lucid dreams at will.(Which we all so badly want to do)

**Kid M** · 09-15-2003 04:53 PM

Because of the revelation of lucid dreaming, which remains a totally new concept to me still, I have done a good bit of research on the internet and just happened to stumble across the WILD technique.

I copied-and-pasted this off some internet site:

"[Wake-Induced Lucid Dreaming] works by remaining conscious until you start dreaming. The Lucidity Institute also first presented this technique, but it is not easy if you don't have a clue what to do. But it is quite easy and effective if you do it right. Again, you need to sleep 5-6 hours before trying this. This is because you don't dream much the first 5 hours, it is mostly non-REM sleep. You enter REM a lot faster after 5-6 hours with sleep, and you don't go down to stage 3 and 4 as you do when you first go to bed. The problem is remaining conscious until your dream start.Many strange things may happen when you remain conscious until the REM-period starts. The first thing you see may be Hypnagogic Imagery. It is a pattern, like the one you see when you press your fingers against your closed eyelids. Remember that this is hypnotic, and getting too involved with them will induce unconsciousness. Just let it flow, don't get too involved and don't suppress them either. The next thing you may experience is Hypnagogic Sounds. It may be as real as the sounds you hear in waking reality, but they are nothing to be afraid of. It is a good indicator that the REM-period is right around the corner. Just don't let these sounds scare you. If you start to experience Abstract Thoughts, the logical part of your brain is falling asleep and you are not far from losing consciousness. You might be lying in bed thinking about a friend and the hypnagogic imagery starts and you see your friend's face. You have also worked a stressful day so you start to remember stocking the shelves at work. Soon you are thinking that you are putting cans of food on the shelves with pictures of your friend on them. All this might seems perfectly normal. But it's not logical. What you need to do is try thinking logical, do some math or start over again. Tactile Sensations can feel like you are paralyzed and high-voltage painless electricity is jolting through your body. You may experience these vibrations and find yourself leaving your body or having a Lucid Dream. But remember that all this is nothing to fear, it happens every night, whether you are consciously aware of it or not. Now that you know what you might experience when trying to consciously enter the REM-period there is another problem we need to conquer. And that is losing consciousness, a very common problem that is rather easy to overcome. A good solution is Caffeine and Theobromine. Caffeine is found in Coffee, Tea, Coke, Chocolate and Pills. Theobromine is found in Chocolate. The problem is finding out how much Caffeine works for you. A lot of experimenting has to be conducted. A good place to start is with 0.5 liter Coke, a cup of Coffee or Tea, half a pill or a chocolate bar. If you take too much you will not start to dream at all, if you take too little you may lose consciousness. But drinking 0.5 liter Coke is not very wise, it has a very disturbing side effect. You should also stay up for about 30-60 minutes after waking up after 5-6 hours with sleep. This because it takes about 45 minutes before the Caffeine reaches its full effect. You might experience a DILD if you go to sleep right after some caffeine intake. Another way for keeping the mind active and to bring on the hypnagogic images is to imagine doing something that involves imagery, audible and tactile sensations. Like driving a car, imagine the car and the road, hear the engine-/radio and feel the steering wheel. Remain focused on what you are doing and avoid thinking about anything else than driving that car. Or you might include smell and taste, by imagine a good meal. This works best in combination with NILD, it takes far more time when done as you go to sleep for the first time. But done with NILD can you find yourself in a dream in as little as 5-10 minutes. Or you can try lying on a 30 degree incline mattress (can be done by stuffing pillows under it). And keep the room as dark as possible. Close your eyes and concentrate on your breathing, the slower the better. Breath with your stomach, making an "Ahhh" sound at the end of the exhalation, that will help your mind to stay awake while your body fall asleep. With time may you notice mild vibrations and that your body becomes paralyzed. At that point will you notice that you no longer have any problem concentrating, everything becomes clear. In this state stop concentrating on your breathing and just be aware of your surroundings. If you begin to loose consciousness, start paying attention to any light in your vision or any internal sound. Some time later will you begin to experience the second vibrations. It will quickly rush throughout your body, sometimes accompanied by various sounds and then end. This is your astral body being released. Dream images will start to form. You can go with these images and enter a Lucid Dream, or you might just sit up and walk away from your physical body."

It seems too good to be true. I have been trying that a lot, only to wake up thinking "Shit! I fell asleep!" It's either just me, orelse you really need to be some major lucid pro.

**evangel** · 09-16-2003 12:04 AM

Sounds a bit like trance induction. As I understand it (I haven't done any research, but have heard a few things) Buddhist monks and others are able to reach levels of consciousness that are similar to lucidity through meditation. When I first started dreaming lucidly about 8 years ago, I would experience the same kinds of things that you described in the WILD technique such as seeing patterns of light and feeling energy coursing throughout the entire body -much like an adrenaline high that lasts for several minutes, culminating with an OBE. I've never heard of WILD before, but I rarely have such "dreams" anymore even though I do still have lucid dreams. I suppose there are different forms of lucidity that may or may not necessitate experiencing what you described. Interesting.

**DreamCoil** · 09-16-2003 01:04 AM

WILD is a very effective form of becoming Lucid, because you enter the dream already aware, so your locked and loaded ready to go.
Something that can increase the chane of WILD is to go to sleep for about 6 hours then wake up and read something about Lucid Dreaming, that way Lucid Dreaming is all you have on your mind. Then go back to bed repeating a phrase like "I will become lucid in my dreams" concentrate on the phrase so while your body falls asleep, your mind will still be aware.
That method is known as Wake Back To Bed (WBTB) for some people it is considered the most effective form.
BTW grets from the newbie

**evangel** · 09-16-2003 01:43 AM

Oh yeah! Focusing on word phrases while falling asleep has worked well for me also. In particular I have tried reciting verses from scripture, or lyrics from songs... stuff that's easy to memorize. I also sometimes imagine script (in English) much like those scrolling electronic bulletin boards that you might see at a bus or train station. It's very difficult to imagine the image of an entire phrase at once because words and letters change too quickly, but if you do it one letter or word at a time, spelling out the entire phrase, it slowly gets easier.

**Serinanth** · 09-22-2003 01:57 PM

Me again, this is like a playground to me stuff that I can relate to

I found some ways that you can experience the change from consiousness to dream, its a weird feeling.

If your into martial arts go through a complex kata in your mind as you lay in bed you have to be tired for this to work though, visualise yourself try to see every detail in your mind where you are, a forest a field a dojo wherever and go through your forms when you make the change everything will explode in color and form and feel real an not just the visualised daydream.
Visualise a story or just doing some kind of task, walking through the woods, try to see hear and smell use your imagination!!! again you gotta be kind of tired otherwise you will just keep yourself awake,

One occasion where I was consious and transfered into dream I visualised myself ascending a huge spiral staircase, takeing care to imagine each footstep each stair, the movement of my legs the banister. There were scones on the inside of the spiral column outside was just an inky blackness. I let my imagination kind of take over and I came to a ceiling with a hatch in it, I opened it and climbed out I was standing on a black smooth surface and I was up in the sky the wind was bliwing strongly so I imagined myself wings and took flight I looked behind me and saw I was standing on an enourmous black cube that the stair case must have been in. I had trouble flying though, the human form with wings on the back dosent quite work with me its very difficult to fly, so I concentrated on my dragon form and thats when it happened, as I made the change into just daydreaming in bed visualising all this to actually dreaming, it was a shock but felt incredible, I flew along in my dragon shape one with the wind. theres more but im ranting =P and Ive been up way too long and should prolly get some sleepies

**nerve** · 09-22-2003 06:21 PM

i think i've used WILD before, correct me if i'm wrong.

it was earlier in the morning. i was dreaming i was in this certain store that i like, and the people in the house i was staying at kept making noises so i woke up. i was still half asleep and i pictured myself back in the dream and i entered it lucidly! it was really cool, i kept waking up and going right back into it fully aware.

**Weezer** · 09-23-2003 09:34 PM

I have experienced this before. I woke up in the middle of the night and did some stuff and read somethings on lucid dreaming. I went to sleep and saw pictures and weird things in my head untill i entered my dream which i knew i was dreaming, whichout having to do a reality test,