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      Dream Perspective

      This may be on the verge of another forum, but I really hope it isn't.
      Okay, well, I've noticed that when I'm dreaming, I'm in a third-person perspective, and the views keep changing, like a television show. And I was wondering, do people have first-person perspectives in their dreams?
      Here's the verge-thing I was talking about. In a lucid dream, can you change your perspectives? Hah...that word sounds funny now. Perspectives.
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      hey, your post is 100 % on topic here I often have dreams in the 3rd person and i switch constantly between 1st and 3rd all the time in most any dream, lucid or not. You'll find that alot of people here have dreams that. I hope this anwsered part of your question.
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      wow! Very interesting.. I usually have first-person perspectives in LDs.. And I use to connect 3rd person with non-lucid dreams! ...only in the begining af a WILD I have something like 3rd perspective, but I use to feel it as something weaker which I should get out anyway and achieve my own presence in the dream environment in the 1st person position.

      But in fact, I do this only because of being in the habit! ...never thought about it! Never thought that 3rd person perspective could be worth!

      Tell me more, PLS! What do you actually do in lucidities if you're not in? Stage the theatre?
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      Actually I've always believed, that progressing and consummating of the dream body makes the sense. At least my purpose was that - striving to unify the dreamer's and the bedreamed's consciousness like in the shaman's trans...

      But I might be wrong.

      In 3rd person perspective you haven't got what to train ..except the dream-attention but.. maybe only in the begining. I don't know.. Have to test this idea : )
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      There was one young lady who wrote in complaining that all of her dreams were from the 3rd Person Perspective. She felt deprived of not being a primary character in her own dreams.

      She recalled that the last time she had a First Person Dream, she had found herself naked and was very much embarrassed by the experience.

      It was my guess, that her Dream Self, to avoid any future embarrassment, took refuge in the 3rd Person Perspective. Being a Spectator presents none of the risks of being a Player..... but none of the Glories either.

      If you also have concerns that far too many of your Dreams or in the 3rd Person, then you should suggest to your Subconscious that you are willing to take the risks of the First Person Experience. And yes, it may simply be a factor of being too modest. You must tell your Subconscious that you are willing to go down Main Street stark naked. It is rather a univeral dream experience, and as uncomfortable as it is, nobody ever laughs or stares.

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      Originally posted by Leo Volont
      You must tell your Subconscious that you are willing to go down Main Street stark naked. It is rather a univeral dream experience, and as uncomfortable as it is, nobody ever laughs or stares.
      I must agree with this. But it doesn't even have to be uncomfortable. Ever since I was a child, it has been common for me to be naked in my dreams. I got over the feeling of bodily shame (in real life) when I was quite young, so it doesn't really bother me at all -- in fact it is quite a liberating feeling -- but as Leo said, in my dreams, nobody ever seems to notice or care if I am naked anyway.
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      Originally posted by TygrHawk


      I must agree with this. *But it doesn't even have to be uncomfortable. *Ever since I was a child, it has been common for me to be naked in my dreams. *I got over the feeling of bodily shame (in real life) when I was quite young, so it doesn't really bother me at all -- in fact it is quite a liberating feeling -- but as Leo said, in my dreams, nobody ever seems to notice or care if I am naked anyway.
      Yes, many people have not problem at all with being naked in their dreams, or otherwise, but even I myself find myself somewhat discomfitted by it when it happens, and yet I still have First Person Perspective Dreams. I I suppose there is a certain degree of dread of nakedness, which, when crossed, shuts off First Person Dreams. These very modest people need to know that they do not necessarily have to suppress all of their sense of personal decency -- they would suppose that impossible. It is just sufficient that they simply agree to tolerate their embarrassment for now on in their Dreams, so that their First Person Dreams may consent to continue without fear of overly traumatizing the individual. Perhaps it is a Free Will issue. One must explicitly give the Dream Mind permission to continue.

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      hey .. I'm indeed very shame of my body! : ( I've never been naked in lucidities ..and I don't remember about non-lucid dreams .. but I'm sure I would be so shamed in a dream as in the waking...

      Are u sure that Dream Perspective has something to do with bodily shame?
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      Originally posted by Zmey
      hey .. I'm indeed very shame of my body! *: ( I've never been naked in lucidities ..and I don't remember about non-lucid dreams .. but I'm sure I would be so shamed in a dream as in the waking...

      Are u sure that Dream Perspective has something to do with bodily shame?
      Well, so far I am working from the data of a Study that had been conducted on just one person. She used to have First Person Perspective Dreams, and then she had a traumatically embarrassing dream of being publically naked, and then for the next years she's been stuck in 3rd Person Perspective Dreams.

      So I suppose there is a Cause and Effect relationship between having been embarrassed by First Person Dream Nakedness and the retreat into the 3rd Person Perspective. Is such an assumption really warranted? Well, then I thought that a few people have been reporting this continuous 3rd Person Perspective Dreaming. Well, Dream Nakedness is a very common dream theme -- I'm frankly amazed that anybody can report not having experienced it. Anyway, I considered that since some proportion of people would be overly fastidious over their nakedness, that if it was true that the 3rd Person Perspective COULD be a refuge for such bashful people, it would go toward explaining a lot.

      But occassionaly I suppose everybody has a 3rd Person Perspective Dream -- when the Higher Mind simply has something to show, where no active response or choice of will needs to be made.

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      hm...good question. my non-LD are either in 3rd person or 1st, but my LD are always in 1st person

      only in the begining af a WILD I have something like 3rd perspective, but I use to feel it as something weaker which I should get out anyway and achieve my own presence in the dream environment in the 1st person position. [/b]
      same for me

      As for the naked in dreams...i think its pretty liberating..just woke up from a dream in which i was naked

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