Actually, you can't know. But the same goes for life. You don't know whether everything you see in WL is just a "scam of your mind"... |
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I have a simple question for you. When you are LD dreaming how do you know that everything you did in your dream wasn't supposed to happen? I mean how can we know that we don't dream ourself having a lucid dream without actually having one? |
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There is no such thing as "impossible".
Actually, you can't know. But the same goes for life. You don't know whether everything you see in WL is just a "scam of your mind"... |
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The only measurable difference between the dream world and the regular one is whether the laws of "nature" are consistent in identical experiments.
-My favourite dream character.
to append what VirtualReality said- if that bothers you, you should probably be also worried and just as bugged by the whole notion of freedom of choice and free will, be it waking life or dreams. one thing is certain though- if any free will exists in nonlucids it's in far fewer quantities than LD's or RL. |
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TAKE DV members advice with caution! some have had zero or 1-2 LD's yet act like gurus
TOTAL LD's (almost all DILD/MILD) =160!!
new goals: have more LD's than Shift[X]
10-15min LD [ X] Article: A day in the life of an LD-er
the "Mind V.S. Body" Induction technique
Everyman 2 LD's/ sleep schedule progress
Free will is basically the ability to make a decision. If you can decide to do something, then you have free will. You don't have to go deeper than that |
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There is no such thing as "impossible".
If we all somehow do not have any sort of free will its kind of cool that we talk about it. Well in the end it's not like we hat a choice...!? |
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Seeing as how we cannot be sure of anything, we cannot be sure that whatever decisions we make were because of a specific event. When you break down reality (or the reality we perceive to inhabit) to the quantum level, all rationality goes out the window, and events happen randomly. Ergo, we must have some sort of free will. |
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I've noticed real lucid dreams that I've had have felt... I don't know. There is a quality to them, like you can feel conciousness that I don't usually feel in my normal dreams. |
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Last edited by detroitLions1970; 10-02-2009 at 04:50 AM.
If I got you right..you are saying that you dream of what you read here? It may be dream incubation, you incubated what you read Y is that a bad joke? Lucid dreaming or concious dreaming to me is when the waking self is awakened. Conciousness is already in normal dreams just that self in the dream is NOT the waking self. It is unable to think out of the dream nor can it decide for itself unless it is part of the dream. Basically the dream self has no initiative of random thoughts unlike the waking self. So to your question about knowing if it was planned to happen or not?....Ask yourself do you normally have sex in the middle of something that has nothing to do with sex in dreams?....My idea of 'supposed to happen' stuff in dreams means the self cannot think for himself but is constricted to what is going on in the dream...so far I never thought of a BigMac while in my room in the dreams I had about it, it's always something happening that is part of the dream and 'I' the dream self reacts to the situation as it is supposed to happen....No BigMacs.....No I'm hungry lets go KFC after this... |
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Last edited by imj; 10-02-2009 at 04:52 PM.
I'd say there is a difference between having a dream based on the premise that you know you're dreaming, and having a real lucid dream. |
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I'd say that the basic difference between lucid dreaming and regular dreams is that lucid dreaming allows you to choose the type of dreams you want to have. I don't have to believe that a monster/bully that I don't like is harrassing me if I'm lucid, and I have the free will to enjoy myself. I can also have ultimate power over the senses I'm experiencing that you rarely, if ever, have in a regular dream. |
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DILDs: A Lot
ive done this before. I actually said "I am lucid, I'll prove it. I'll change my shirt." I changed my shirt without being lucid despite the fact that I said this was a dream SCUMBAG DREAM CHARACTER!!! |
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