Thread: How close was I?

VERY close, you were almost there. And it looks like your a natural. Good Job on your first try. Congrats!

btw, is your name from Ender's Game?

*sigh*
How the hell do you guys do that.
Either I keep myself awake or I just slip into a normal sleep/dreams...

Yep Rtex that name sure is from Ender's Game. Best SciFi in the world I think. I'm on the third Ender Book Xenocide.

Oh and CT I hope this helps. Kid M copied this off some website.

"[Wake-Induced Lucid Dreaming] works by remaining conscious until you start dreaming. The Lucidity Institute also first presented this technique, but it is not easy if you don't have a clue what to do. But it is quite easy and effective if you do it right. Again, you need to sleep 5-6 hours before trying this. This is because you don't dream much the first 5 hours, it is mostly non-REM sleep. You enter REM a lot faster after 5-6 hours with sleep, and you don't go down to stage 3 and 4 as you do when you first go to bed. The problem is remaining conscious until your dream start.Many strange things may happen when you remain conscious until the REM-period starts. The first thing you see may be Hypnagogic Imagery. It is a pattern, like the one you see when you press your fingers against your closed eyelids. Remember that this is hypnotic, and getting too involved with them will induce unconsciousness. Just let it flow, don't get too involved and don't suppress them either. The next thing you may experience is Hypnagogic Sounds. It may be as real as the sounds you hear in waking reality, but they are nothing to be afraid of. It is a good indicator that the REM-period is right around the corner. Just don't let these sounds scare you. If you start to experience Abstract Thoughts, the logical part of your brain is falling asleep and you are not far from losing consciousness. You might be lying in bed thinking about a friend and the hypnagogic imagery starts and you see your friend's face. You have also worked a stressful day so you start to remember stocking the shelves at work. Soon you are thinking that you are putting cans of food on the shelves with pictures of your friend on them. All this might seems perfectly normal. But it's not logical. What you need to do is try thinking logical, do some math or start over again. Tactile Sensations can feel like you are paralyzed and high-voltage painless electricity is jolting through your body. You may experience these vibrations and find yourself leaving your body or having a Lucid Dream. But remember that all this is nothing to fear, it happens every night, whether you are consciously aware of it or not. Now that you know what you might experience when trying to consciously enter the REM-period there is another problem we need to conquer. And that is losing consciousness, a very common problem that is rather easy to overcome. A good solution is Caffeine and Theobromine. Caffeine is found in Coffee, Tea, Coke, Chocolate and Pills. Theobromine is found in Chocolate. The problem is finding out how much Caffeine works for you. A lot of experimenting has to be conducted. A good place to start is with 0.5 liter Coke, a cup of Coffee or Tea, half a pill or a chocolate bar. If you take too much you will not start to dream at all, if you take too little you may lose consciousness. But drinking 0.5 liter Coke is not very wise, it has a very disturbing side effect. You should also stay up for about 30-60 minutes after waking up after 5-6 hours with sleep. This because it takes about 45 minutes before the Caffeine reaches its full effect. You might experience a DILD if you go to sleep right after some caffeine intake. Another way for keeping the mind active and to bring on the hypnagogic images is to imagine doing something that involves imagery, audible and tactile sensations. Like driving a car, imagine the car and the road, hear the engine-/radio and feel the steering wheel. Remain focused on what you are doing and avoid thinking about anything else than driving that car. Or you might include smell and taste, by imagine a good meal. This works best in combination with NILD, it takes far more time when done as you go to sleep for the first time. But done with NILD can you find yourself in a dream in as little as 5-10 minutes. Or you can try lying on a 30 degree incline mattress (can be done by stuffing pillows under it). And keep the room as dark as possible. Close your eyes and concentrate on your breathing, the slower the better. Breath with your stomach, making an "Ahhh" sound at the end of the exhalation, that will help your mind to stay awake while your body fall asleep. With time may you notice mild vibrations and that your body becomes paralyzed. At that point will you notice that you no longer have any problem concentrating, everything becomes clear. In this state stop concentrating on your breathing and just be aware of your surroundings. If you begin to loose consciousness, start paying attention to any light in your vision or any internal sound. Some time later will you begin to experience the second vibrations. It will quickly rush throughout your body, sometimes accompanied by various sounds and then end. This is your astral body being released. Dream images will start to form. You can go with these images and enter a Lucid Dream, or you might just sit up and walk away from your physical body."

grrr, I hate keeping scrolling to the right and left! Whats causing that? CT's signature?

Yeah, its his sig.

anyway, you ALMOST got it Demosthenes! this also happens to me alot, our brains play tricks on us alot!

btw: enders game kicks it.

Ya know, I heard they're makin a movie out of Enders game, its only hear say though, I don't have any proof to back it up

i hear that theyre makin a movie too...

enders game name, and starcraft avatar... cant go wrong!
(two of the best forms of sci fi entertainment in their genres (book and video game))

My dad has met Orson Scott Card and knows his brother personaly. But anyway Card has tried making a movie a couple of times in the past, but he didn't like where it was going so he shut it down. I heared recently that he was making a movie soon. They can't use Jake Loyd from star wars episode I anymore because he's way to old.

Awesome, another Ender's Game reader. Have you read Ender's Shadow?

i read enders game twice... the first time it took a couple weeks, the second time a couple days. i started reading enders shadow (or, bean's adventure, as i call it) but for some reason i just stopped reading it... hopefully i can get back into it and finish it some time. too busy

Matter of fact I'm reading Ender's Shadow right now.

Originally posted by Tim
i read enders game twice... the first time it took a couple weeks, the second time a couple days. *i started reading enders shadow (or, bean's adventure, as i call it) but for some reason i just stopped reading it... hopefully i can get back into it and finish it some time. too busy

I heard Ender's Shadow was just all about Ender being God, but I've never actually read that one. Ender's Game was great though.

ender's shadow is the story from beans point of view

That couldn't be further from the truth. Bean is made out to be alot smarter then Ender....

whaddaya mean that couldnt be farther from the truth... (unless you werent responding to what i said) all i said is that its the story from beans point of view

I was replying to Artelis. Sorry.

I haven't read any of the shadow ones yet, I'm finishing the other story line. (Speaker for the dead, Xenocide, Children of the mind etc.) Then I'll defenently read the shadow books.