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    Thread: Noob lucid dreamer, been studying about 60 days

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      Noob lucid dreamer, been studying about 60 days

      I have managed to have two completely lucid but short dreams during that time. I have also had severl experiences that I might qualify as semi-lucid. Now I seem to have hit a wall. Maybe someone here can help.

      A few facts about me:

      1. I am not doing this to try to fly, beat up monsters or anything similar. For me it is all about the benefits I hope to gain by putting conscious and subconscious in direct contact.

      2. My study has been fairly intense. Every day I read lucid dream books, watch vids, sleep extra hours if I can, do reality checks.

      3. In the two fully successful dreams I have had (I have had maybe a dozen total lucid dreams in my life, but these are the fist I managed to induce in myself) my subconscious seems a bit touchy, kind of like a virgin dealing with an over-eager lover.

      In the first one, the dream characters seemed ashamed, as if they were embarrassed tp have been caught by me, and by my announcement that I wanted to meet a wisdom figure, who could tell me how to meet my subconscious.

      In the second, it sent out monsters to attack me. Those I was not afraid of, but tried to escape, as I thought they might cause me to lose lucidity. In the end, I did the Laberge thing and, as I was tumbling through the sky with the monsters tumbling about me, I asked my subconscious to show me something important.

      I got something very similar to his version (sky starts to crack and go black, probably because I had finished his book recently). Suddenly it turns into a computer monitor, and I am whisked away into a morality play.

      Since then, as I said, nothing fully lucid. That was about three weeks ago.

      I was overjoyed at the last dream the morning after, though I got the distinct impression that my subconscious was frightened by it, and did not want to do more now. Several nearly successful attempts to enter lucidity since then (actual lucid dreams, but only a second or so long) or non-lucid dreams that contained very lucid elements.

      The endeavour has been mildly successful in other ways. I feel much less depressed, and I have not become discouraged or wanted to give up trying. I am prepared for the long haul on this, but I would like to find ways of making it more frequent.

      The trouble seems to be that, though my dream recall is good, I simply am not able to wake up in time to write everything down (I always get notes, but seldom more than a short paragraph per dream) and, during most dreams, I simply cannot get myself to look for dreamsigns, even ones that my subconscious makes obvious, such as one in which I was (non-lucidly) inside a pixelated computer similation of aircraft, falling from plane to plane. I just don't seem to be able to say, "I wonder if I'm dreaming."

      Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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      About writing down your dreams. You say you are usually only able to jot a paragraph or so. Try going into more detail about the things that you do remember. For example, I had a dream that I was in my old neighborhood, with my old bestfriend. I remember talking to him in the bathroom at some point. I distinctly remember having a sunburn except it was opposite. Instead of it being everywhere except where my sunglasses were, it was only on my sunglasses. I would describe what kind of bathroom it was, did it have seperate urinals? Was there only one toilet? Do you remember seeing a sink? Just more details. Like maybe the feelings you had during each part you remember. Idk, just suggestions haha. And dont worry, not recognizing obvious dreamsigns happens to everyone. It just seems a lot more obvious after the dream. Just keep practicing daily awareness and reality checks and you will progress Im a beginner as well, ive had natural lucids my whole life but only a couple produced willfully.
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      I appreciate that, and already took your advice, writing down as many inane details as I could remember on my next dream. The dream immediately after, while not lucid, was definitely much brighter, clearer, and easier to recall.

      Thanks

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      Very Intresting idea. Meeting the subconscious and consious mind. Keep up the good work. There's a saying I know that 'What you put into yourself, is what you will put out.' Keep studying and you'll have some pretty intense dreams.

      As for calling upon your subconscious.. A DG could be a start for you depending on how far you've studied. Read into them a bit more if you haven't already. I don't know much on this subject, so I hope whatever I said could have helped in some way.

      Also, with dream recall, when you wake up, don't move. Your body will stay have you in 'sleep mode' and your dreams will be stronger in memory. Also, i suggest trying some WILD techniques on this sight for High-Clarity/Intetensity.

      Good Luck!
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      Quote Originally Posted by SilverJay View Post
      Very Intresting idea. Meeting the subconscious and consious mind. Keep up the good work. There's a saying I know that 'What you put into yourself, is what you will put out.' Keep studying and you'll have some pretty intense dreams.

      As for calling upon your subconscious.. A DG could be a start for you depending on how far you've studied. Read into them a bit more if you haven't already. I don't know much on this subject, so I hope whatever I said could have helped in some way. Good Luck!
      Thanks for the encouragement. I'm new to this, though, and don't know the lingo. What is "DG"?

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      Oh, I'm sorry. a Dream Guide is a term for the representation of the subconscious. It stands out as a Dream Character (DC) who is basically your subconscious. (Sorry if I'm repeating myself.) Some people refer to it as a 'higher self' but personally, I'd say it's just your sub-mind. Which I guess is exactly what you're looking for.

      If you'd like to get some of our Slang : DV Dictionary - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

      Here's a person like you, read this thread, you might be intrested : http://www.dreamviews.com/f32/asking...things-131394/

      Also, I'll send you a link to Dream Guides later, if I can find one. (Personally, I Use dreams to explore creativity, recreation, and critical thinking about myself/world)

      Good Luck Bro!
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      Thanks man, I much appreciate it. Like so many things in life, I've gotta learn the basics.
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