• Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views




    Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 1 2
    Results 26 to 43 of 43
    1. #26
      Banned
      Join Date
      Feb 2005
      Posts
      3,615
      Likes
      2
      Originally posted by kimpossible
      Right. I'm just wondering what method was used to measure the 100WPS?
      Dream control....extreme dream control!

    2. #27
      Member Legend's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 2005
      Posts
      36
      Likes
      0
      I'm sold (Well Done!)

      Legend

    3. #28
      Banned
      Join Date
      Feb 2005
      Posts
      3,615
      Likes
      2
      Originally posted by Legend
      I'm sold (Well Done!)

      Legend
      Hey! You can do it too! Just touch up your D. Control a little, & you can do it as well!
      If you want to try the 'Reading the Real Time Book' method, here is what you need to do:
      ~Leave a book open on your counter (you cannot flip the pages, unfortunately)
      ~Prepare for WILD
      ~Instead of Following the Dream Imagery in the final phase of WILD, try to get up.
      ~If successful, you have a 10% chance of being in the right situation (the other situations include WILD, FA, waking up, or maybe NonLD dreaming). RC just in case.
      ~After this, read the open book (you cannot flip the pages, so don't try).
      ~Go back to bed
      ~Get up & make sure that the book is exactly what you read.

      Splash does this, too, BTW! Works very well!

    4. #29
      Member Legend's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 2005
      Posts
      36
      Likes
      0
      Thanks! I am SO going to do that (as soon as I get WILD down pat... I get to the SP and vibrations, but not much more at the moment... just gotta keep at it, I guess!)

      -Legend

    5. #30
      Member kimpossible's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 2005
      Location
      Folsom, CA, USA
      Posts
      1,058
      Likes
      0
      Clear this up for me?

      You can't flip the pages. So you open a single page, go to sleep. 10% of the time you'll be able to read that single page at a rate of 100wps?

      Am I understanding correctly?

      (and I'm still not getting how the 100wps was measured. I read at a trillion wps this morning in a non-lucid dream. I must have been thinking about your posts when going to sleep... The problem there is that when you can invent the scale of time arbitrarily, n / t measurements are going to be arbitrary as well.)

    6. #31
      Banned
      Join Date
      Feb 2005
      Posts
      3,615
      Likes
      2
      Originally posted by kimpossible
      Clear this up for me?

      You can't flip the pages. So you open a single page, go to sleep. 10% of the time you'll be able to read that single page at a rate of 100wps?

      Am I understanding correctly?

      (and I'm still not getting how the 100wps was measured. I read at a trillion wps this morning in a non-lucid dream. I must have been thinking about your posts when going to sleep... The problem there is that when you can invent the scale of time arbitrarily, n / t measurements are going to be arbitrary as well.)
      I said that you cannot flip the pages of a Real Time book if you are reading it. 10% of the time this method will work at all, b/c sometimes you may have a FA instead, or you might just WILD.
      The 100wps is valid on a LD book only....it won't work on Real Time books! Real time books require you to use that method mentioned above, but it can take a while to get it to work if you haven't done it b4.....it can only be done in la ciencia ficcions. It is kind of like if you do it in a LD, you can read 100wps, but you cannot read a real time book, & it is vice-versa in a la ciencia ficcion.

    7. #32
      Member kimpossible's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 2005
      Location
      Folsom, CA, USA
      Posts
      1,058
      Likes
      0
      Prehaps I'm being dense.

      If it's an "LD book" - then it's a book created in the imagination, right? Like "Operating a Nintendo in LD" (I did check for an ISBN on "Operating a Nintendo*" - nothing in Books In Print. worth the check, though! )

      If the book is created in the imagination, then the mind knows the entire book at some level. So if the book were a trillion words long, then it could be read instantaneously, giving a theoretical infinite number of words/second, right?

      Just trying to understand!

    8. #33
      Banned
      Join Date
      Feb 2005
      Posts
      3,615
      Likes
      2
      Originally posted by kimpossible
      Prehaps I'm being dense.

      If it's an \"LD book\" - then it's a book created in the imagination, right? Like \"Operating a Nintendo in LD\" (I did check for an ISBN on \"Operating a Nintendo*\" - nothing in Books In Print. worth the check, though! )

      If the book is created in the imagination, then the mind knows the entire book at some level. So if the book were a trillion words long, then it could be read instantaneously, giving a theoretical infinite number of words/second, right?

      Just trying to understand!
      No, you're not.....every one always says that to me whenever I mention la ciencia ficcions...
      That is true, but there are some books that I have yet to read in there! I have a huge library of them to read...well, & in actuality, my weak subject is reading comprehension, so I have to read them more than once!

    9. #34
      Member kimpossible's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 2005
      Location
      Folsom, CA, USA
      Posts
      1,058
      Likes
      0
      Thanks for helping me understand.

      Now, when you write "la ciencia ficcions" - the literal translation would be "The Science Fiction"

      Are you referring to the genre of science fiction within the subset of Books In Print - or is this intended to reference something that doesn't exist within the real [waking] world?

      If it's the latter, I might humbly suggest "ficción privada" as being further descriptive whilst maintaining the spanish connotation.

      A quick google search suggests the quote to be self-refferential in that the only reference is a post you made here a couple days ago.


      I have strong written and spoken function in six languages, survivable in an additional handful esp. written. So I believe my translation to be fairly accurate in the literal sense. And I try to do my homework prior to making a query, so bear with me if you would!

    10. #35
      Member Legend's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 2005
      Posts
      36
      Likes
      0
      Hi kimpossible,

      I can't help but interject myself here, I hope you don't mind, because I'm only trying to help.

      I'm assuming that you consider all LD to be purely "imagination-generated". If I can do anything to dissuade you of that limitation, I would be most pleased with myself.

      I can't speak for nesgirl119, but I can speak from experience that not all LD's are purely imagination. Perhaps I would be better served to reference OBE'ing in an LD - then you might better understand the concept of what I believe nesgirl is getting at.

      If you could LD, and while in that LD, OBE to a real-world, known physical location (like, say.. .a library) - you might be able to read an open book there.

      As far fetched as it may seem, it has been scientifically documented by Dr. Robert Munroe, formerly of the Munroe Institute (under U.S. governmental patronage).

      Help any?
      Legend

    11. #36
      Banned
      Join Date
      Feb 2005
      Posts
      3,615
      Likes
      2
      Originally posted by kimpossible

      Now, when you write \"la ciencia ficcions\" - the literal translation would be \"The Science Fiction\"
      or is this intended to reference something that doesn't exist within the real [waking] world?!
      Rats! I was hoping to use that longer than I thought...guess I will have to find another new hidden term for S**-**!! Arrgh!
      Anyways, it refers to a type of LD that you can actually view real time in, & you can fly through space(hence the name), but cannot walk!!!

    12. #37
      Member kimpossible's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 2005
      Location
      Folsom, CA, USA
      Posts
      1,058
      Likes
      0
      I can give you a list of languages I don't speak - or I can just keep my virtual mouth shut next time. Either way is good. 8)

    13. #38
      Banned
      Join Date
      Feb 2005
      Posts
      3,615
      Likes
      2
      Originally posted by kimpossible
      I can give you a list of languages I don't speak - or I can just keep my virtual mouth shut next time. Either way is good. 8)
      Go on ahead.....I would like to hear them all!

    14. #39
      Member kimpossible's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 2005
      Location
      Folsom, CA, USA
      Posts
      1,058
      Likes
      0
      Naw, that was a stone-cold bluff. The list I don't speak would require too much research on my part.

      If you're interested in the languages I do have - we should take that away from the open forum. I'm boorish enough as it is!

    15. #40
      Banned
      Join Date
      Feb 2005
      Posts
      3,615
      Likes
      2
      Originally posted by kimpossible
      Naw, that was a stone-cold bluff. The list I don't speak would require too much research on my part.

      If you're interested in the languages I do have - we should take that away from the open forum. I'm boorish enough as it is!
      You might want to ask Seeker about that....he knows what I am talking about (unless you'd rather PM me!)

    16. #41
      Member kimpossible's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 2005
      Location
      Folsom, CA, USA
      Posts
      1,058
      Likes
      0
      PM was where I was going with that...

    17. #42
      Banned
      Join Date
      Feb 2005
      Posts
      3,615
      Likes
      2
      Originally posted by kimpossible
      PM was where I was going with that...
      Okay, we can talk more about it through PMs!

    18. #43
      Member Classico's Avatar
      Join Date
      Sep 2005
      Location
      Mukilteo, WA
      Posts
      95
      Likes
      0
      While I have not tried this while LD'ing, I very very often reaqd books whislt dreaming- and for the most part they are very coherent, clocks however change constantly. I find the clock thing very odd, even whilst LD'ing they change, odd in that I always recite the time before I look again, and every time it always changes to some weird number.

      Books, these tomes of text are coherent- and generally don't change. The clocks however always do, I am almost beggining to think its because I subconsciously KNOW that clock will change.
      Lucid Dreams: 14

      Invisible Pink Unicorns are beings of awesome mystical power. We know this because they manage to be invisible and pink at the same time. Like all religions, the Faith of the Invisible Pink Unicorns is based upon both logic and faith. We have faith that they are pink; we logically know that they are invisible because we can't see them.
      ~ Steve Eley

    Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 1 2

    Bookmarks

    Posting Permissions

    • You may not post new threads
    • You may not post replies
    • You may not post attachments
    • You may not edit your posts
    •