Thread: 11:11 Theory

Does anyone think that the 11:11 has anything to do with my lucid dreams? I started experiencing 11:11 around the same time I started lucid dreaming on almost a daily basis.

Originally posted by firefly
Does anyone think that the 11:11 has anything to do with my lucid dreams? I started experiencing 11:11 around the same time I started lucid dreaming on almost a daily basis.

I take it you are a young person. In terms of your youth, you have just begun experiencing everything around about now. And, indeed, it would be a grandiose indication that your life is seriously vapid if you can seriously argue that some grudgy lowlife musicians had actually contributed to substantially changing your life... but such is the perspective of childhood where the most important things are toys, and the most important events are games, and where the worshipped Heros are people who do not even have a day job.

what is this 11:11 theory anyway?

Originally posted by irishcream
what is this 11:11 theory anyway?

Thank god someone asked that!

I seriously have to wonder how many new people come to this forum and post an honest question and are insulted by Leo and decide this is not a nice place to be and just don't come back.

Hmm...i'm thinking...it's the simplest things that change your life..not the new car, or the latest gadget.
A piece of music, a smile from someone you love.

although still no one seems to know what this theory is...

Anyone who knows care to elaborate on this 11:11 thing?

Well...just looked it up. From what I can see, 11:11 is meant to be some kind of mystical/spiritual time, that some people, more or less without fail, happen to see when they look at a clock at least once a day. So, these people will see the time 11:11 every day.

Intriguingly, and with all honesty, I saw 11:11 on a clock today, and thought it was interesting!

Over the last year I have notides that more often than not when I look at the clock, the time has a combination of 1s, 2s and 0s in it. 11:11 has been a frequent one. I get this a lot while driving, and looking at the mileage counter. For example, I hired a car to drive down to the South fo England at the beginning of this month, and there was a point where I looked at my displays, and the time was 11:11 and the when the mileage was at 2012. Found that very neat!

Ah, let me help here.

11:11 Theory is a musical band. http://www.11-11theory.com/music.php

At the same time, the 11:11 theory had to do with a certain date when people were supposed to have been spontaneously initiated and transcend this world. Just like any other spiritual truth, that number founds its way into fanatical thinkers.
Other than that I think it has some other universal meanings.

Here's some interesting links on it:

http://216.109.125.130/search/cache?p=11%3...&icp=1&.intl=us

http://www.crystalinks.com/11.11.html

http://1111spiritguardians.com/

A lot of different perspectives on it, but at least its a bit of a read. The last link I think hits it the closest to the core.

Now that's interesting, particularly that bit about streetlights going on and off, and the doorbell ringing.
These circumstances have both happened to me. Walking to work one day in the early morning, a streetlight went off. No big deal there then. Until less than five seconds later, it came back on again!
Also the doorbell. I put it down to kids, but no kid moves that fast...very strange.

Originally posted by UnReaL
I seriously have to wonder how many new people come to this forum and post an honest question and are insulted by Leo and decide this is not a nice place to be and just don't come back.

.Lol LOl LOl

Originally posted by irishcream

Walking to work one day in the early morning, a streetlight went off. No big deal there then. Until less than five seconds later, it came back on again!
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You know streetlights are set to cycle, some pseudo random, some on a set time. It is a power-saving measure. Also, notice they don't go totally out, but you see a faint glow around the bulb.

Saves citys millions of dollars/year, and helps conserve power.

hmm...interesting...are you the type of person that explains everything with fact? I'm not saying you're right or wrong, but if everything can be traced down to logical fact, doesn't that make the world a rather boring place?
Leave a little room for mystery, eh?

Personally, I have a different definition...

What you're describing is what I define as "ignorance".

"Mystery" for me, is taking that which can't be easily explained, and setting out on a course of discovery in order to explain it. Then once it's explained, figuring out how to apply it. Take my GSR experiments, for example. I'm a good 50hrs into that "mystery" right now. A couple more hours and I'll have something for everyone to look at. Conclusive? Inconclusive? Not sure yet. But that's the mystery! Worshipping the god of streetlights is a lot easier, but for me personally, a lot less rewarding.

Have you ever experienced the high of discovery? Oh man, it's tremendous. It can last for *days* with no downer at the end. When you've devoted every moment to building the experiment to test or explain or induce or create (that's the best!) some phenomena. You've climbed the mountains, and you've beat your brains against its granite cliffs. Then suddenly the data finishes plotting and WAAAAAAAAAAAAA! Oh yeah. That's when the angels sing. When it's all right there in front of you for one moment. You have captured the universe and held her in your hand for that brief fleeting instant - everything is there with crystal clarity. Sometimes it's enough to bring tears to my eyes...

And then you gently set the universe back on the ground and let it run away. And the hunt resumes again...



If we lived under your definition of mystery, I contend that we'd still be living in the stone age. Actually, just before the stone age, since the use of tools would be an anathema - gotta leave some mystery there.

Imagine if Sherlock Holmes decided that there should "be some mystery left in the world" - Arthur Conan Doyle probably wouldn't have sold as many books if Holmes were a pothead with the munchies laying around on the couch chiding Watson: "Leave off it, Man! Sure, the guy is dead. But we must have some mystery in the world!"

Makes for an awfully short and terribly boring read, don't you think?

Good for you.

How do you and leo expect anyone to respect your opinions when all you can do is insult everyone around you? You compare us to subhumans, appeal to stereotypes, and directly attack anyone who has a different opinion than you. Insulting people over the internet is something 14 year olds do when they play counterstrike. Your childish behavior seems to indicate that you possess no remarkable intelligence that the rest of us need respect, and so I refuse to take you seriously.

There was no personal attack anywhere in that post.

Of course, you have the reading comprehension of an autistic two year old, so that point is probably beyond you. <-- That is a personal attack.

Try to get 'em straight, 'k?

I can't say I totally agree with Dangeruss, but he's right to some extent. I also find your posts, both Leo Volont and kimpossible's, rather insulting. Specially yours kimpossible, because sarcasm and irony can be even more insulting than a plain insult called into your face.

Opinions can be expressed without sarcasm, irony and disrespect and still say the exact same thing. I suggest you both (Leo and kimpossible) try and do just that, because many people here don't apreciate it.

It's a good thing you enjoy your method kimpossible and Im sure it can be very rewarding, but you should bare in mind that some people enjoy "mystery" just the same, even if it seems like ignorance at times.

Originally posted by kimpossible
There was no personal attack anywhere in that post.

Of course, you have the reading comprehension of an autistic two year old, so that point is probably beyond you. <-- That is a personal attack.

Try to get 'em straight, 'k?

I think you're out of the line kimpossible.

Originally posted by firefly
Does anyone think that the 11:11 has anything to do with my lucid dreams? I started experiencing 11:11 around the same time I started lucid dreaming on almost a daily basis.

How do you "experience" a number or a measurement?

Consider the statement, "I am experiencing 55º Fahrenheit." Does that mean I am outside where the air temperature is 55º, or that I'm in a room where the air temperature is 55º? Could it mean that I am in a 70º room with my hand dipped in 55º water? Perhaps I am outside in 90º weather but in a 55º pool? Or maybe I am simply anywhere, looking at a piece of paper that says "55º Fahrenheit" on it. Or even that I am in a math class and I solved a geometical equation for 55º, and then went to science class where we measured our experiments using the Fahrenheit scale instead of Kelvin.

I hope it seems like I've belabored the utter ambiguity of your statement, so that I've exposed it's underlying meaninglessness. This should help you detach yourself from the need to look at numbers for meaning and find more fruitful and empowering means of understanding.


kimpossible illuminated an extremely important point, which is that modern new age mystics (the types that make 11:11 theories) are actually not at all comfortable with mystery. It may even be that they are very scared of it, for they move so quickly to try and escape uncertainty, abandoning the slow process of critical thinking and resorting to simple solutions. "Yes, yes, I, uh... things are going on and I don't know what they mean... well, it's a eleven o'clock... so that must be it," and then proceed to ignore everything that does not confirm that suspiscion - lest it provoke another mystery.

I highly recommend that everyone, if they haven't already done so, read this editorial in the Skeptical Inquirer, written by a former New Age author. The SI can often be very antagonistic, but this one is very much the opposite.

Bridging the Chasm between Two Cultures

And it seems to me that a lot of people could stop being offended by Leo if they simply give his posts another read.

Originally posted by kimpossible
There was no personal attack anywhere in that post.

Of course, you have the reading comprehension of an autistic two year old, so that point is probably beyond you. <-- That is a personal attack.

Try to get 'em straight, 'k?

I was actually referring to Leo's post when I said "Personal attacks," although don't kid yourself into thinking you don't make them.

I don't like Leo's at-times condescending tone, but that isn't to say that he offends me very often. I think he's got a lot of interesting things to say, and I take what he says seriously. Kim is the only person on this board i have a problem with.

Originally posted by Kaimelar+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Kaimelar)</div>

I think you're out of the line kimpossible.[/b]

I don't. I was simply illustrating what a personal attack looks like such that he would understand better in the future.

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kimpossible illuminated an extremely important point, which is that modern new age mystics (the types that make 11:11 theories) are actually not at all comfortable with mystery. It may even be that they are very scared of it, for they move so quickly to try and escape uncertainty, abandoning the slow process of critical thinking and resorting to simple solutions. \"Yes, yes, I, uh... things are going on and I don't know what they mean... well, it's a eleven o'clock... so that must be it,\" and then proceed to ignore everything that does not confirm that suspiscion - lest it provoke another mystery.

I highly recommend that everyone, if they haven't already done so, read this editorial in the Skeptical Inquirer, written by a former New Age author. The SI can often be very antagonistic, but this one is very much the opposite.

Very well put.

The originating description sounded to my ears similar to worshipping the sun and the rain gods. Quaint, yes. But one hopes the world has moved a little beyond that in their collective understanding of what actually makes crops grow...

Nobody likes to recieve an insult, and in fact very few people intentionally give them on a regular basis; the problem is that it is so easy to insult some people. History has thousands of occasions where little disagreements over what's appropriate explode into battles that rage on for decades.[/b]

that's very true, classico. who said that?

Rotten.com on Insults

I've always remembered those little things you read once, and recall at a later date as if out of no where- kinda sucks, but not really.

I know what it is like to have the 11:11 experience. The numbers 11:11 draw you to things that you normally wouldn't see. You won't belieive in it until it starts happening to you just like some people don't believe you can control your dreams. I don't look for numbers to get my attention it just happens. The clock will say 11:11 and for some reason I turn to look at it, then I will get a phone call or an e-mail that is important. So for me 11:11 is warning and it lets me know when something requires my attention.