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      Problem with Lucid Dream stability

      I had 10 lucid "moments" throughout my whole life, and they were all short and unstable.
      These are the things that I tried out whenever I became lucid:

      - I focus at my hand or anything near me and examine the details.
      - I rub my hands together.
      - I shout out "Clarity now!"
      - I spin around in a circle.

      None of these worked so far, the dream stayed blurry and I woke up or lost lucidity.

      Is there a way to stabilize my lucid dreams and achieve clarity?

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      When you try to stabilize it, Do not just take it as an action. BELIEVE that you are in your dream, that you want to take control over it, If even possible, Tell your subconcious that you want to stay lucid in your dream.
      By far that's from my Personal experience.
      Other people might have other techniques to this but feel free to try some other things. Or even create your own way to stabilize a dream.
      But the importance is, Don't just take action, But believe in the dream. (Like when summoning a dream character, you don't just say "Come out of there!", but you have to visualize that HE/SHE is really walking on the road turning around the corner to meet you.)

      Confidence.*
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      Out of the ones that you named, I've only ever been successful when shouting "clarity now". But I must say, whenever I've used this one, it's been really effective. Other than that, normally RCs are enough for me to stabilize the dream.

      And like MMC418 said, you must believe it's a dream, truly believe it. It sounds silly, but sometimes we might say "this is a dream" without being fully conscious of what that implies. And by that I mean, be fully conscious that your body is fast asleep in bed and this is all a mental build-up, and as such, you have full control of it. If you can stop for a second and realize that, the dream will become more vivid and you'll have more control instantly.
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      I've had a similar experience with most of my 70+ LDs. I've analysed the problem more recently and come to the conclusion that the problem is I am too excited as I become lucid, and just flip immediately to waking.
      Just now I am trying a different tack, and that is to come into an LD from the opposite end, that is to try and be super nonchalant, in fact almost staying non-lucid, and very slowly allowing myself to "wake" into lucidity. I realise that when I became lucid before my mind was going at 100 miles per hour and I was desperate to stabilise really quickly, but of course the problem was my mind was racing so it was impossible.

      I've had a little success with this new approach, definitely feeling calmer in the couple of times I've become lucid. The difference was I ended up drifting back to non-lucid dreaming or dreamless sleep, but I reckon that is better than going in the waking direction.
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      Quote Originally Posted by martakartus View Post
      Out of the ones that you named, I've only ever been successful when shouting "clarity now". But I must say, whenever I've used this one, it's been really effective. Other than that, normally RCs are enough for me to stabilize the dream.

      And like MMC418 said, you must believe it's a dream, truly believe it. It sounds silly, but sometimes we might say "this is a dream" without being fully conscious of what that implies. And by that I mean, be fully conscious that your body is fast asleep in bed and this is all a mental build-up, and as such, you have full control of it. If you can stop for a second and realize that, the dream will become more vivid and you'll have more control instantly.
      I'm jealous that you can turn your dreams vivid just by doing regular RC. I once had this lucid dream where I stopped for a few seconds and truly believed that it's a dream. Then I tried to improve the quality by shouting "clarity now" but nothing happened, and I had to give up the lucidity because I couldn't do anything about it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Goldenspark View Post
      I've had a similar experience with most of my 70+ LDs. I've analysed the problem more recently and come to the conclusion that the problem is I am too excited as I become lucid, and just flip immediately to waking.
      Just now I am trying a different tack, and that is to come into an LD from the opposite end, that is to try and be super nonchalant, in fact almost staying non-lucid, and very slowly allowing myself to "wake" into lucidity. I realise that when I became lucid before my mind was going at 100 miles per hour and I was desperate to stabilise really quickly, but of course the problem was my mind was racing so it was impossible.

      I've had a little success with this new approach, definitely feeling calmer in the couple of times I've become lucid. The difference was I ended up drifting back to non-lucid dreaming or dreamless sleep, but I reckon that is better than going in the waking direction.
      Interesting. I'm never excited when I get lucid but they quickly fade.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MMC418 View Post
      When you try to stabilize it, Do not just take it as an action. BELIEVE that you are in your dream, that you want to take control over it, If even possible, Tell your subconcious that you want to stay lucid in your dream.
      By far that's from my Personal experience.
      Other people might have other techniques to this but feel free to try some other things. Or even create your own way to stabilize a dream.
      But the importance is, Don't just take action, But believe in the dream. (Like when summoning a dream character, you don't just say "Come out of there!", but you have to visualize that HE/SHE is really walking on the road turning around the corner to meet you.)

      Confidence.*
      Maybe it's because I worry too much that the dream will fade, I should be more confident.

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      Quote Originally Posted by AndyEscapes View Post
      Maybe it's because I worry too much that the dream will fade, I should be more confident.
      That used to be my problem! I personally find that what works best for me is to sit on the ground, rub my hands, feel the surface, etc. Like people mentioned already, you have to believe that it will work, not just go through the motion. Some people have also reported that eating something crunchy is a great way to stabilize, give it a try!
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