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      Question I am apprehensive to read some posts because if the influence to my expectations

      Hi All! I have only had one or two LDs, and that was some years ago. I am returning with more diligence! Keep in mind, I am just theorizing here, I am no expert....

      I am absorbing as much info as I can (books, podcasts, videos, etc) to saturate my thoughts with LD, hoping it will influence my ability to become lucid. A dominant element in these sources seems to be a sort of custom personal mind-game with one's preconceived fears and expectations about what can and can't happen in their LDs. There don't seem to truly be a lot of absolute/universal results to given actions in our dream worlds, if any at all, only ones we have subscribed to and expect. Limitations and results seem self-imposed or tied to our personal cultures and personalities. It seems the bottom line is that LDs are completely safe, excluding perhaps to those with certain psychological conditions.

      So, my apprehension, as suggested in the title, is exposing myself to other people's personal expectations which may limit my experience. Some people bring with them a great and encouraging sense of freedom and liberation, while others may convincingly dispense their own fears and limitations as if they are absolute... and then we may absorb those, which may limit or negatively affect our experiences with LDs.

      I don't even want to reference a real statement I have read in fear of infecting someone's expectations, so I will invent an unlikely and preposterous one as an example. "Never manifest and consume a pickle ice cream sundae in an LD because a swarm of noogie-monsters will pigpile on you and wake you up!! It happened to me, be warned!!!" If we replaced the sundae with something more likely, what are the chances that some people will absorb this into their person catalog of expectations and limit their potentials in LDs?
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      personally, whenever im consuming LD content, very often there will be some limiting beliefs. but im pretty open minded, know a little about psychology, & am a big fan of the placebo effect. so i just disregard & ignore Anything that sounds limiting. i dont even consider that it may be true, so im pretty confident its not going to do any damage. trying to avoid other people's expectations is just going to prevent you from seeing a lot of really cool information, i feel.
      i do, however, lean into Positive expectations, such as 'doing this will make lucid dreaming so much easier' & the like, as i see no harm that can come from them!
      i hope this helps you :3

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      Thanks for your feedback, Tacky, I appreciate it! I very much hope that my case will be the same as yours, being able to read some posts and simply say "not in my case!" and discard it if it doesn't seem of benefit to me. Just the other night I was riding home in a car, a bit later than my usual bedtime. On the radio was a new song by an artist, and I was having a conversation about kittens with my partner. That night I dreamed that the musician asked me to go on tour with him, not to perform but just to be a positive influence. And, there were kittens about! I don't recall being so suggestible before!
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      The door will swing both ways, I believe. Something may set negatively but other things will set positively. In the end, it's all opportunities to learn. Suggestibility isn't necessarily a bad thing either. It means your mind is open and adaptable to new things. That's good thing to have when learning. I read the tutorial here about dream control last night. It's a good read with some tips about in dream limiting beliefs. Have you seen it? It's in the Dream Control forum, the folder Dream Control Tutorial at the top.
      Last edited by Sweven; 08-07-2024 at 02:33 PM.
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      Thanks, Sweven, I hadn't read that tutorial yet- it has some good strategies! I have been reading tutorials more at the pace of my progress... starting with dream journals, reality checks, etc. I had to laugh at the lizard ice cream, not far from my example.

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      We do have a Book Club Section here: https://www.dreamviews.com/book-club/
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      ahh! Thank you!

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      Thanking you as well, Lang. If, by some wild chance, i should piece together an opinion of a book am I still able to post about it in the books respective thread/forum?

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