Gods, Goddesses and what they are going to do with us.

**Aneas** · 10-01-2003 08:19 PM

Just about all of them.

**nerve** · 10-01-2003 08:22 PM

I really don't get what you are saying Jesus believed.

**Curios** · 10-01-2003 08:31 PM

Originally posted by Shawndow
I belive in John 3:16 *although i know that some of the things religons pertray might not be true. OK WHAT IM ABOUT TO SAY PPL, some might take offense to BUT PLZ DONT GET MAD AT ME FOR IT.

What are the odds of Jesus Christ being white *Seriously, wouldn't it make more sense if he was of darker skin such as Middle Eastern or black. Lets face it, if you beilive in christanity then you know gods ppl are the Israelites. Now where is Israel located, in the Middle East. You know the war between the Isrealites and Palistienes thats been raging on for decades.
Take in mind ppl that hundredes of years ago they didn't have air condtion, and no cars, you had to walk every where. Now imagaine that you are around the country side with you crew teaching Gods word in that kinda heat. Your obivously going to get a major tan unless you already of darker skin.

I personally think that he was more middle eastern then anything. Any 1 have anything to say about this. It is perfectly ok to put down my statment.

I agree Jesus had to be Brown and proud

**Curios** · 10-01-2003 08:33 PM

Then again maybe he was lighter than everyone else. Not many excepted him.

**Aneas** · 10-01-2003 08:39 PM

I'm saying that each of us have the potential for Godhood. As Jesus said, The kingdom of God is within.

**zwishenzug** · 10-01-2003 10:23 PM

I think it says somewhere that Jesus was not pretty to look at, and that he had nappy hair. He would definiately be of the same ethnicity at the rest of the Jews in Gallelie (spelling?).

I believe in John 3:16. I actually think it's one of the most important verses in the entire Bible.

**Sondora** · 10-04-2003 05:01 PM

There's something I don't understand. (I'm not Christian, by the way.)

The Trinity is:

* God, the Father
* The Son
* The Holy Spirit/Ghost

Right?
My understanding, or at least, how I've been taught, is that God is actually three, but without one the whole cannot function. *amused*
My R.E. teacher explained it to us like an electrical plug.

It is said that Jesus sacrificed himself to save us from our sins, yes? By dying on the cross without using his 'powers' or whatever it was that made him more than human, so in effect, he felt real pain and suffering.

Something I've never understood, is how his death saved us from anything?

2000 years later, things are both worse and better than they were before, and none of it is a direct act of the Christian God/Trinity etc, or at least cannot be proved so.

**zwishenzug** · 10-05-2003 02:03 AM

I think Futurama said it best when God told Bender that when you do something right (as God) people won't be sure you've done anything at all. I think what God wants is for us to come to Him on our own accord. To worship in our own way, with our free-will. I think He doesn't want to be the only entity in reality and that's why he made the angles and humans and animals.

I agree that there is no definitive evidence of the direct interaction of God since He sent Jesus. Unless you count the effect He's had on individual's lives. And my life. I believe I have felt a direct influence on me from God. I feel connected to Him, and this reality seems richer to me because of it. I look forward to experiencing eternity.

When He saw that His people were straying and becoming corrupted He sent part of Himself to save us. Jesus was all human, and all God. Jesus' purpose was to teach God's people how to live and how to worship. He was supposed to set a new set of guidelines for the Jews. But, they rejected Him (which was one of their prophesies by the way). His death takes our (those who believe Jesus is the Messiah) sins and washes them clean. His death forgives us and allows us to spend eternity with Perfection.

Also, the Trinity can function without one. Example, Jesus. I don't believe there are any metaphors that can allow us to understand the Trinity. The most I can come up with is that each branch of the Trinity is a manifestation of how God works. That is, he can work spiritually (The Holy Spirit), physically (The Son), and creationally (The Father). This makes him omnipotent, omniscent, and omnipresent.

These are of course my beliefs. I can't say any of this as actual fact although I put it that way. It is easier to say "Jesus said..." than "I believe Jesus said..."

**Rtex** · 10-05-2003 05:30 AM

Jesus Died on the cross. You got that. The reason he died was that in the bible Romans 3:23 it says, "For the wages of sin is death. . . ." So, if we sin, we deserve death. and the only that can "pay the price" for our sins is blood. So when jesus died(having no sin in his own life) he died in our place. So that we don't have to die. So that we can go to heaven. Simply. Jesus Died so we don't have to.

**Thermonuclear** · 10-05-2003 05:37 AM

Originally posted by Rtex
Jesus Died on the cross. You got that. The reason he died was that in the bible Romans 3:23 it says, \"For the wages of sin is death. . . .\" So, if we sin, we deserve death. and the only that can \"pay the price\" for our sins is blood. So when jesus died(having no sin in his own life) he died in our place. So that we don't have to die. So that we can go to heaven. Simply. Jesus Died so we don't have to.

Jesus died because god is such a pussy he is too radical to stray from his natural ways.

God thinks that if you sin and he forgives you there should be a sacrifice in order to "make it right" . . . now if i were god i wouldnt really care but god is too stuck up to realize he is caring too much.

God knows were going to sin and god knows he is going to forgive us. And because god thinks he should make a sacrifice to make it all feel right he chooses jesus. God thinks a human should be sacrificed, and god thinks it would be very good if the human sacrificed is clean of sin. So i guess jesus has to be sacrifice, ohh well

. . . but even if jesus wasnt sacrificed he would still die in the future anyway so, out with a bang!

So that is why jesus died, jesus did not need to die but he did anyway, because god is a pussy.

Now, when i say pussy im only using the word pussy to take the place of another word that i cant remember.

No offence tho guys, really.

**nerve** · 10-05-2003 06:06 AM

i agree with Rtex and zwishenzug. as for Thermonuclear, that post was highly unnesessary.

**A Lost Soul** · 10-05-2003 09:59 AM

Originally posted by Rtex
Simply. Jesus Died so we don't have to.

Then why have so many murders been carried out in the name of Jesus and God? If Jesus died so no one else would have to, there should be no reason to wage war because of religion. I'm not being a jerk; I'm curious what you think.

**Thermonuclear** · 10-05-2003 10:03 AM

Originally posted by A Lost Soul+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(A Lost Soul)</div>

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Simply. Jesus Died so we don't have to.

Then why have so many murders been carried out in the name of Jesus and God? If Jesus died so no one else would have to, there should be no reason to wage war because of religion. I'm not being a jerk; I'm curious what you think.[/b]

I like my theory much better. Jesus died because gods a pussy.

But to be ohnest, Jesus probably died because he is a big sellout and wants massive publicity (hell, i sure do).

**nerve** · 10-05-2003 06:47 PM

Originally posted by A Lost Soul+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(A Lost Soul)</div>

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Simply. Jesus Died so we don't have to.

Then why have so many murders been carried out in the name of Jesus and God? If Jesus died so no one else would have to, there should be no reason to wage war because of religion. I'm not being a jerk; I'm curious what you think.[/b]

allow me to ellaborate. he didn't exactly die so that no one else would have to die, no, people are gonna die. he died so that there will be a way for people to get to heaven, so that we won't all go to hell. all you have to do is believe that. John 3:16!!!

**Ginko** · 10-05-2003 09:36 PM

I agree with TRex and the guy with the funney name Ziwigush. You did a great job explaining the trinity thing. As for John 3:16, i beileve in that 2 but after you have found christ it's only right you follow him. You may truly belive that Christ died on the cross for us. But if you don't follow his ways i dont think.........hmmm. Well i guess im saying is beliving in Christ not be enough to get the Full exstent of gods pleasures in the after life.

**jill1978** · 10-06-2003 01:02 AM

aneas your always up my alley....God is training us to become as great as he, and no longer need him. Like some as said before I use he just gramatically....god is genderless