SP and alien abductions

[TygrHawk]

Check out this article. Here's an excerpt: As Clancy and McNally interviewed the abductees, they started to find some common threads. Many of them, for instance, described the terrifying experience of waking up and being unable to move, certain that an intruder was lurking in their room. To the Harvard psychologists, it was obvious that their subjects had suffered an episode of sleep paralysis — a state of limbo between sleep and being awake, sometimes punctuated by hallucinations. [/b] Just thought you all might find that interesting.

[Serkat]

Well, that's no breaking news, why are they still putting effort into it? No matter how often they will give ocular proof of how these beliefs came to existance, alien freaks just never give up. It's pointless to even talk to these people. They live in their freaky fantasy worlds with aliens, dwarves and magical psychic abilities, totally ignoring scientific facts. It's giving me diarrhea.

[Ynot]

Originally posted by Korittke They live in their freaky fantasy worlds with aliens, dwarves and magical psychic abilities, totally ignoring scientific facts. It's giving me diarrhea. How can you say that on a forum devoted to dreams anyway, certain science says that aliens do exist. Statistical certainty

[Awaken4e1]

If as we call them 'ufo's' didn't exist, then why are they- so accurately detailed in the bible?

[Ynot]

Originally posted by Awaken4e1 If as we call them 'ufo's' didn't exist, then why are they- so accurately detailed in the bible? what Un-Fathered Offspring ?

[Awaken4e1]

Originally posted by Ynot what Un-Fathered Offspring ? "?"

[Ynot]

Originally posted by Awaken4e1 * \"?\" oh help me lord

[Awaken4e1]

The afore mentioned reference details the spirits which are in the middle of the wheels, who and what they are. And as all who know God know that he is the Father of all spirit. Heb 12:9

[Ynot]

you're screwing with me, aren't you? you're the centre of attention down the pub, really laughing, joking, chatting up all the lovely lasses this is one of your jokes right now, am I right? please say I'm right

[Awaken4e1]

No, no joke I can show you if you want?

[Ynot]

I've read the bible, numbnuts and the Kuran and the Tanakh blimey

[Awaken4e1]

Well for the sake of those who haven't seen it before" Eze 1:15 And I see the living creatures, and lo, one wheel is in the earth, near the living creatures, at its four faces. Eze 1:16 The appearance of the wheels and their works is as the colour of beryl, and one likeness is to them four, and their appearances and their works are as it were the wheel in the midst of the wheel. Eze 1:20 Whither the spirit is to go, they go, thither the spirit is to go, and the wheels are lifted up over-against them, for a living spirit is in the wheels. Eze 1:21 In their going, they go; and in their standing, they stand; and in their being lifted up from off the earth, lifted up are the wheels over-against them; for a living spirit is in the wheels.

[Ynot]

One man, \"an articulate, handsome\" chiropractor with a \"strikingly attractive wife\" and twin sons, claimed to have fathered hybrid babies with an alien, a \"streamlined, sylph-like creature.\"[/b] haha !! someone had an affair

[Jrels]

I don't know about UFO's in the Bible, the description sounds a little vague. Anyways, I thought I'd add something to the original topic. One aspect of this theory is that these abduction memories only begin with the simple event of sleep paralysis. People will later on see a hypno-therapist because they suspect they might have had an alien encounter. During these sessions of hypnosis, the patient will actually create the supposed memories of being taken on board a space craft where they undergo torturous experimentation because that is what they suspect had happened. I remain neutral on the subject, because I find it impossible to judge without any experience in such things. Obviously some people who claim alien abduction would be appalled by this skeptical explanation, because it was apparently all too real to them.

[neil2006]

One aspect of this theory is that these abduction memories only begin with the simple event of sleep paralysis. People will later on see a hypno-therapist because they suspect they might have had an alien encounter. During these sessions of hypnosis, the patient will actually create the supposed memories of being taken on board a space craft where they undergo torturous experimentation because that is what they suspect had happened.[/b] the patient will actually create the supposed memories of being taken on board a space craft where they undergo torturous experimentation because that is what they suspect had happened[/b] Sounds like its just mind over matter, im sure u have all herd that saying. It never happened but they beleive something so much they trick there minds into thinking it really did happen. ( Keep in mind i didnt read that link, If i can find the page ill post some very freaky information about dreaming/possible devil enounters. Just dont have time to google for it right now )

[Howie]

Originally posted by TygrHawk Check out this article. Here's an excerpt: As Clancy and McNally interviewed the abductees, they started to find some common threads. Many of them, for instance, described the terrifying experience of waking up and being unable to move, certain that an intruder was lurking in their room. To the Harvard psychologists, it was obvious that their subjects had suffered an episode of sleep paralysis — a state of limbo between sleep and being awake, sometimes punctuated by hallucinations. [/b] So true Tygerhawk. (*The link is not coming up for me!) For those who believe in aliens. Actually, I believe there are other life forms out there. so we are all aliens I guess. But as far as abductions. 1.Any life form that could possibly travel through space, would most likely be far superior in intelligence than us. Why do they abduct us, Then always return us safely into bed. Do they check our temperature and do a physical? I would think their ambitions would be greater. 2.Why is it that those who do not believe in alien do not get abducted? 3.Why are we always abducted around these times where , as stated SP would occur? 4.Why do they always act in a covert and clandestine approach?

[Vex Kitten]

My first bout of sleep paralysis struck before I started school. I had the distinct feeling that there were 2 other creatures in the room with me. I didn't know what they were but they terrified me. It still spooks me to think about it. So, if I were to go to a hypnotherapist...there is the high likelihood I'd create an alien abduction scenario while 'under'? I'm pretty sure I've not been abducted by aliens...but now I'm wondering if my mind would give into that suggestion since that seed has been planted there. Would it be safe to try hypnotherapy to see if the false abduction scenario would happen to me?

[neil2006]

My first bout of sleep paralysis struck before I started school. I had the distinct feeling that there were 2 other creatures in the room with me. I didn't know what they were but they terrified me. It still spooks me to think about it. [/b] Vex Kitten you should read my other post i think it relates to the 2 creatures in the room. If i can find the page ill post some very freaky information about dreaming/possible devil enounters. Just dont have time to google for it right now [/b] Its called " Shared nightmare all over the world. " in general discussion heres the link http://www.dreamviews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24416

[Darkness]

Hey Awaken4e1, are you stupid. Eze 1:15 And I see the living creatures, and lo, one wheel is in the earth, near the living creatures, at its four faces. [/b] They were talking about the seraphim for god's sake. I went to a christian school forr ten years and had lots of time to read the bible.

[djk99]

Korittke wrote Well, that's no breaking news, why are they still putting effort into it? No matter how often they will give ocular proof of how these beliefs came to existance, alien freaks just never give up. It's pointless to even talk to these people. They live in their freaky fantasy worlds with aliens, dwarves and magical psychic abilities, totally ignoring scientific facts. It's giving me diarrhea.[/b] Wow, I knew you were going to say that, maybe I'm psychic. Awaken4e1 wrote If as we call them 'ufo's' didn't exist, then why are they- so accurately detailed in the bible?[/b] Um... maybe the bibe isn't real either

[Oneiro]

I agree with the opinions expressed about "alien abductions" not taking place in the everyday waking world. Too many times in such accounts have I read words to the effect of: "I was lying on/in my bed when..." or "I suddenly woke up, when..." A very common dream scenario is that of the "false awakening", well-known in LD, but evidently not so well-known by ordinary dreamers, in which anything can "happen".