haha yeah that was my first attempt at WILD'ing.. but even if i do get the hang of it.. its gonna suck having to get up after 5-6 hours of sleep everynight just to stay up for an hour so you can LD... i tried MILD'ing but i found that RC make me look crazy and i already have good dream recall, no point in having to write it down.. SOO what im hoping is that i can eventually be good enough so that i can just WILD without having to sleep for 5 hours first..?