i kind of agree with you billybob... but i donno... it seems like when i read things by LaBerge he makes it seems like he can do whatever he wants at anytime he wants and actually believe its real. i donno dude... i've been thinking too, but there's nothing i can do directly that im aware of so im just going along for the ride (not talking about LDing, im talking about dream research and tehcnology)